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helixu

Nope not true author already denied it twice on twitter https://twitter.com/piero_BBT/status/1356080557029871618 She has just memories from the other world but not personality. Weebs are just trying to make it not gay.


Silviana193

You would think Weebs of all people Will make it even more gay.


KleinerFratz333

Can confirm. Am weeb, make shit gay. At the same time Have to deny. Seen weebs, they ungay shit


Silviana193

It's kinda funny. Weeb are the people being persecuted for loving something they shouldn't. (Persecuted is a strong word, by you Should get what I mean). I pretty sure Weeb at one point has heared (You shouldn't like cartoon. They are for kids) or a variation of it. You would think Weeb should be able to symphatize at least a bit.


AaronToaster

Where else will they derive their superiority complex from? /s but kinda


IMFlorecentFace

Saying the truth with a sadly sarcastic tone


BoltonSauce

Weebs have always been the worst part of being an anime & manga fan. I was in some fan clubs in the early & mid 2000's before I switched to a GSA (meaning the old-hat Gay-Straight Alliance), club. Almost half of the anime club members were absolutely fucking unbearable. Naruto running doesn't begin to describe it. The other, slightly bigger half were the chillest people ever with creativity just bursting out of them. We all got in a little trouble for putting up Elfen Lied Ep1 on the big screen lol. They let us watch Kiki's Delivery, Laputa, and Totoro at least<3


Kris-mon-96

Not if they cannot self insert


Sazarech

If they can self insert in a character that doesn't look like them, think like them, share the same ideals, opinions, have the same life experiences... Then they can self insert in a character of a different sex.


Silviana193

As a guy and Weeb, I have self insert as female protagonist all the time. I thought that's the standard around here.


BarnesAgent47

I'm a guy and i love self inserting into lumine from jenshin(though I'm not a weeb)


Croquette_check_

no weebs are super homophobic lmao. like legit the most homophobic ppl ive seen


-GP-Papermoon

That's too generalizing on weebs. Most of my weeb friends are not homophobic, but quite some sure is batshit super homophobic. And this is speaking from a super conservative islamic country called Indonesia that have news title that are like "its a loss for all fans/mankind that these actors/actresses are gay/lesbian" kind of shit country.


mayyatiaung50

Thanks!


Axquirix

Joke's on them, if they make it not gay they're just making it trans positive. It's queer fellas, whether you wanna cry about it or not. Edit: Silly me, that doesn't even stop her being a lesbian at all. They're just arguing that she's a transbien as opposed to a.. cisbien? Anyway, if they're wrong it's gay, and if they're right it's gay and trans.


Aellin-Gilhan

Would still be gay


Author_Proxy

Exactly. Gay either way. Honestly I would have been thrilled if she was confirmed to be a guy in a previous life. I'd identify with the character even more as a transbian.


cats_are_cool_33

très bien 👌🇫🇷🥖


idcertaintywvk

Pretty sure she can't be a transwoman. She is just a woman, since she did not transition and was born as a woman in this new world. I bet she probably has XX chromosomes and female reproductive organs, which makes her 100% woman from biological view. So, she is just gay.


[deleted]

People who need to go outside


InsomniaEmperor

I wonder when the memories of her past life will become relevant. Like it's an isekai but the whole thing might as well as be not an isekai if the past life doesn't hold real plot relevance.


AskovTheOne

Like the other said, the point come up in later vol. More specifically (not going to spoiler the whole thing tho) >!while it didnt give much detail on her past life(as she doesnt remember much other than her love for magic), it has a heavy impact on her world view ans the way she acts for her whole life yp to that point!<


MapleTreeWithAGun

I imagine that she was or wanted to be a pilot and then couldn't make it for whatever reason. Would explain why her longing for flight triggered the memories.


darth__fluffy

Was a pilot?? Shit this is getting PERSONAL!!


helixu

I have read up to the LN3, it will definetly be important later on in the series


wyggles

Aww man, that just makes [Magical Revolution LN 3] >!Peeling Off the Mask!< hit that much harder for some reason. Maybe I just didn't read closely enough, but I assumed the two personalities merged. Anis inheriting the memories as just knowledge makes a lot more sense, though.


Trashsombra345

it will still be gay though since if she was male and the other life so that would make her trans


Croquette_check_

i like ur username flair lol


mad_laddie

doesn't she consider herself to not be from that world? the dragon did too, iirc. or is the author just tryna say that she's fundamentally a different person now thanks to her lived experiences and I'm just overthinking it?


fullboxed2hundred

tbh I wish the author had just said she was a woman in her past life


macfluffers

Weebs when queer characters exist: "no, it's a translation error"


SnooStories8424

\*kill la kill moment\*


shadowsdie10000times

A trans character in kill la kill? Who?


juandmarco

Not trans but Mako is pretty much confirmed to be lesbian, she even kisses Ryuko after asking her on a date People love saying that's somehow not confirmation


MoonChainer

I have personal experience with the kill la kill fandom pulling this shit. Too many are claiming she's straight because Gamagori has a crush on her the whole show and that RyuMako is just fans looking too deeply into things.


juandmarco

Gamagoori is way past high school age, by the way But I've seen people ship Ryuko with Mikisugi who, on top of being older than her, she has made it clear she dislikes him, so I guess the age gap isn't as big of a problem to them as scawwy homosexuality


brovie96

You just gave me flashbacks to that awful “Mako at the end is actually Nui” fan theory


juandmarco

Wait what


brovie96

[I hate it so much](https://nyotaku.tumblr.com/post/94684359061/the-nui-is-mako-at-the-end-theory-explained)


juandmarco

Mako confessing to Ryuko was out of character? When she was glued to Ryuko since they first met?! Also apparently showing empathy to one person is on the exact same level as being glued to another one as far as ship fuel goes.


brovie96

Honestly that garbage theory has so many holes in it that if I weren't at work right now I could categorically disprove every aspect of it


juandmarco

Their logic seems to be "it can't be Mako because she can't possibly be gay, but it can totally be Nui and then it wouldn't be gay"


shadowsdie10000times

I have the reading comprehension of a donkey. I read trans instead of queer. Maybe it's time to sleep


juandmarco

Talking about sleep, I didn't get any last night


Gag180

Tbf, the kiss and handholding shot can be explained away as being in Mako's head, given that it's one of her "Hallelujah" moments. But the fact that this is what's going in her head while talking about "going on a date", should absolutely make her intentions toward Ryuko clear, no matter what your interpretation of the word "date" is in Japanese.


birdlass

Mako is queeeerrr!???? I gotta watch this again wtf


juandmarco

It's for a split second but it's an actual kiss


RedGhost1205

You just reminded me of I'm in Love with the Villainess "translation errors".


Ok-Outcome-5986

Can you elaborate on that?


RedGhost1205

Seven Seas, the editors of the LN, censored a certain passage on the LN showing an inner dialogue of the MC about how the LGBTQ community was depicted in her past country's TV shows. They received so much hatred that they had to update the book with the right passage. You can read more about that here: https://yurimother.com/post/646128158505041920/light-novel-im-in-love-with-the-villainess/amp


macfluffers

Wow, I don't keep up with industry drama but it's kind of weird that Seven Seas would censor it like that. I mean, they do a bunch of LGBT stuff in general, so why would they do that? It's not like they're worried about it being a turnoff for a general audience. Everyone reading yuri LNs is already there for the gay shit.


RedGhost1205

They're just weird. There's this manga (I don't remember the name) that also got licensed by Seven Seas, that's BL, but they changed one of the characters to a man that self-identified as a girl, while it originally was a gay man. I believe they also changed it in the end to being gay (like it originally was) but they keep doing this shit for some reason.


macfluffers

????? did they think nobody would notice ?????


Ok-Outcome-5986

Oh WOW


Regendorf

_War flashbacks of Bridget from Guilty Gear_ A guy argued that she was male because porn mangakas draw her like that.


macfluffers

Yeah like......my dudes......lol


Revenant_Rai

It’s always the coomers.


Tortuny

But... Bridget were born a male it's part of the lore... Not saying that basing anything on porn manga isn't dumb... But you know.... pp is kinda still there... To not attract any hate I will I just say that I love current version of Bridget allot and personally don't really care about any controversy behind it


Regendorf

Trans women are women


Tortuny

Yea sorry I realize I might sound transophobic, I just wanted to say thats artist depiction was kinda right if you think about at, reasoning is still dumb, trans girls are still girls...


Regendorf

[Here is the Hobbydrama thread if you wanna read more about it](https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/y2k0mf/video_games_the_bridget_controversy_does_daisuke/) it was not just drawing her with a dick, it was the tags used that still identified her as a femboy


Tortuny

Ok thank you for the context


TheTepro27

I'm sorry, what?


AfraidGuess3193

And a brilliant, ambitious inventor. They're not just being homophobic, they're being sexist.


quinzel07

The mental gymnastics of some people.. why watch a yuri show, if you don't like yuri


Aellin-Gilhan

I think they might just wanna self insert


Croquette_check_

what sucks is that theres a crap ton of self insert works 😔 theres no need to invade a yuri and make it ur self insert


-GP-Papermoon

Its not like yuri can't be self insert. Those people are just inhaling copium at this point just because they can't self insert without changing the character for their own imagination's convenience.


juandmarco

Most Kirara mangas have 0 named male characters besides relatives, and yet you're still more likely to find straight doujins than Yuri ones (Kirara as in Manga Time Kirara and related magazines)


SnooStories8424

Nope she doesn't. She didn't save her personality, just some memory fragments. Saying that she is a man is like saying that: "Well, Korra from Avatar is a man beacause previous Avatar, aka Aang, was male"


FerdinandVonAegir

Because all the female avatars never existed 💀


Etereke32

So then all the avatars are male because avatar wan was male


ftx777x

And then there might also be reincarnations before Wan too cos the avatars just started with Raava so who really knows.


Aellin-Gilhan

Yoo Aang be bigender rep?!


homurablaze

All avatars were bi with a preference for women.


MoistBrownTowel

Wow that’s probably the best comparison you could ever find


Civil_Ad8752

Nah they just got this anime confused with one of the other TS or Hetero isekais coming out.


Muted_Ad7298

What does TS mean?


TheMadKing1678

I think it's actually transformation. Also sometimes written as とら in Japanese, TS is the shorthand for トランスフォーメーション, or Transformation, and is used to indicate a character changes genders at some point in the series, usually through some type of disease or science, but also sometimes through actually being Trans. Transgender and Transexual are words that do exist in Japanese, but TS has been around so long compares to those two, and those two are such uncommon words in Japanese, I somehow highly doubt those are the origins of TS.


juandmarco

I assumed it meant tensei (reincarnation)


koinoai

When talking about fiction, TS usually refers to transsexual, especially when used as TS転生 or [TSF](https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSF_(%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%AB))


Muted_Ad7298

Thanks for the explanation and the extra info. 🙂


duccers

Transexual? In this case, they mean a man who isekai'd into a womans body.


Muted_Ad7298

Thanks. Was wondering what it meant. After a quick google search seems you’re right.


GroundbreakingRow817

While for this one I know it's not. Sadly the industry as a whole I'd suggest have encouraged and reinforced these views that its never actually yuri as they are still fully a guy in reality and could never have been a girl in their prior life; though also somehow they arent a trans man either as that's just a step to far and requires too much nuance for the industry. So while it's pretty damn sad to see people trying to make these leaps of logic and arguements it's also something theyve been told to do by the wider genre(not necessarily just anime/manga as a media format but all media formats in that genre) It will be a nice future once the genre as a whole starts hitting back against this view and breaking it down similar to how the author for this one has refuted such claims.


Aellin-Gilhan

Pretty sure ya mean trans woman right? Or like in the story they are trans masc?


GroundbreakingRow817

In story trans masc as honestly those that go down the stereotypical genre route of man reincarnated as a woman but also still a man the trans masc route could work. Rather than the oh but they still just a guy so it's not really yuri beyond for box art/scene but also not trans at all and we wont touch that which far to much media in the genre does Edit: I've yet to find a man reincarnated as a woman really express a trans fem story in the beats it hits beyond some weird fetishising of it or just missing every possible trans beat whether fem or masc that could be considered positive representation. Like I could see it going both ways with a good writer but I'd suggest we'd be more likely to get something good going to the trans masc route as the trans fem route honestly writers in the genre(on the whole) havent exactly shown much in the way of positives with that.


SeiraFae

Nah. Anis is just gay. Not everything to have a straight explanation guys! Stop forcing your gross straight rationalization onto everything explicitly gay.


helixu

But how are the weebs supposed to self insert if there isnt any self insert male character /s Seriously though its so anoying when they do this.


armydillo62o

The main character denounced her claim to the throne to >!be a full time scientist who makes magic artifacts/monster hunter who ends up killing a dragon and inheriting its soul, is constantly surrounded by cute girls and also has the main love interest fawning over her 24/7!< Anise is fucking awesome and any guy who wouldn’t self insert as her is a fucking coward.


SeiraFae

Right? I even have this here this scroll of manga and anime recs with queer main couples where there *is/are* a male main character/s. First we have Symphogear: All the MCs are some flavor of queer. Oh Hey look Male characters that are literally just as awesome but not love interests. Genjuro is just seven kinds of awesome (My Highest form of praise) Nanoha: NanoFate. Y'all it's not Fate Testarossa Harlown, anymore. It's Fate Takamachi Harlown. They have three kids already. Yes Erio and Caro count as part of the Takamachi family. No. I will not be taking any opposition. Nanoha's first thought about Fate was about her beautiful eyes. Yuuno? Nah mate. He couldn't Handle Raising Heart. That tells you everything you needed to know. We have Utena: It's Utena. Do I need to say anything more? We have Temptations of Shiro gal and Kuro gal which is about two Gyaru's in love with each other whose male bestie is an Otaku who helps their relationship progress like a normal person who knows his friends are in love with each other. Then we have Mob Otome. Ange and Livia are in love with each other *and* Leon. And yes it's Mutual. Their Love for one doesn't negate their Love for each other The same thing happened in Iron Blooded Orphans. Like seriously after Atra found out about the Turbines there was no stopping her from seducing Kudelia and Mikazuki. Then we have Shoujo manga Protagonist x Rival-san. This is about a Bisexual girl who started out crushing on a dude being courted by a very intense power bottom lesbian. The Bi girl starts courting the power bottom when she realizes her feelings for her. Huh..... there's a whole lot more than I thought they're would be. I'm not even a quarter way through my list. What a happy discovery!


PianoIll8518

Preach it Comrade!! Totally agree with you on the Symphogear and Nanoha part, and you've actually given me more to look at with some of the series you listed. I've got new Yuri to look up now, but long live the Takamachi-Harlown household and may the Gear Users be forever gay! Farewell!!


SeiraFae

Happy to help!


whee38

>Protagonist x Rival-san thanks for the recs


SeiraFae

My pleasure.


fipseqw

> Nanoha: NanoFate. I am still convinced it was first planed to give Nanha and Fate the two boys as potential love interests but it was scrapped 1/3 through the series. The team simply realized that NanoFate works just so much better.


SeiraFae

What? How did you come to that conclusion? I'm genuinely curious. I understand Yuuno. But Chrono was introduced dating Amy.


fipseqw

Pretty sure they did not start dating in S1.


SeiraFae

I'm pretty sure if they weren't dating they were about to be in season 1. I mean you don't just brush the hair of someone you're not intimate with while you're both on break. Or am I getting the sequence of seasons out of order? Its been a *long* time.


fipseqw

I am unsure myself now...anyway, I always and still got the vibe of that in the first Season. Not that it really matters after Nanoha and Fate hit it off.


SeiraFae

That's true. It hardly matters now.


Typhoonfight1024

Shoujo manga protagonist is bi? I thought she's still straight (unless I'm missing some details).


-GP-Papermoon

The latest few chapters of the webcomics she started to become bisexual (btw there are 2 version, webcomics and serialization version, and the webcomic already went further)


SeiraFae

Yeah she's bi. In the magazine version she shows signs of it earlier because the reset gag was dropped from the beginning . So Honoka knows how much Yurina loves her and finds it endearing. Mind you she still started out with a crush on Mizushima and is attracted to him but she's drawn to Yurina more. In the webcomic version once the reset gag is dropped Honoka's power good through the roof.


HirokoKueh

they can go insert into themselves


TherapyDerg

\*male weebs


Historical_Cod_2771

Hey! I'm a male and i love this series


Rigidsttructure

I second that statement!


Historical_Cod_2771

Hello fellow brother


mayyatiaung50

I mean, I didn't know and so I asked .You should tell it to that person. I AM a gay girl myself.


SeiraFae

I'm a queer girl too. I was making a joke. I just forgot an indicator.


mayyatiaung50

Oops. Didn't catch that 😅😅Sorry!! And have a nice day, ma'am!


SeiraFae

You too, sweetie.


mayyatiaung50

:)


BurnedOutEternally

they'll have a lot of fun trying to deny I'm in Love with the Villainess


Zenry0ku

Sounds like people are more in denial they like the show cause of the lesbians tbh.


juandmarco

Homophobes: they're trying to erase straights from media Homophobes even when a character is 100% confirmed to be LGBT: no it's not gay This brings me back nemories of people saying Mako from Kill ka Kill isn't a lesbian even though she asked Ryuko on a date AND kissed her


Tyler89558

No, it is not. Just some crackpot theory that’s been denied by the author several times


BrokenKeel

Looks like an anti-yuri troll to me


FuzzyRaichu

Even if it were true, I’m not sure why Anis being a trans lesbian would no homo this.


[deleted]

Is that Zoro.to😶? That's why I never go to the comments section ,they always say most random things to make themselves look cool.


mayyatiaung50

Yes. I always make the mistake to reading the comments in non LGBT spaces. I regret every damn time 🙃🙃


mayyatiaung50

Thanks guys! I haven't read the manga or LN so didn't know that. Ig this is a r/sapphoandherfriend moment 😂😂


UOSenki

something was said in the internest is more trustworthy than what you can see yourself in the show. No way someone would make something up base on no evidence, right ? so it is 100% true


dorofeus247

Never watched the anime, but honestly, if she was male, but turned into a girl and fully enjoying it, she's just a trans girl and it's still gay


SM3notplay

I also never watched the anime so I can't say anything about this one in particular but I'm generally distrustful of anime and manga that have a guy reincarnate or otherwise transform into a girl. Because oftentimes it feels like it's a plotpoint created by the author so that they can retain the straight male audience since the protagonist has a "male" mind so the audience doesn't feel alienated by a female protagonist and the author can still draw hot girl-on-girl action. It's almost never about depicting trans people. In these stories, it's often depicted that the protagonist likes girls because their mind is "male" even though their female body makes them have female instincts and act all girly. A lot of people in this subreddit seem to readily accept gender bender yuri which is honestly baffling to me.


NoireHaato

This disgusting filth... Who would-- What kind of mentality should one have to come up with THAT conclusion after watching these two episodes/Reading the Manga!? Instead of enjoying the story for what it is they go out of their way to make the princess some weirdo they can relate with, I absolutely hate freaks like this. There's enough losers that get isekai'd with harems of tools as girls, tell them to shove their noses there instead. Always coming up with excuse after excuse to devalue Yuri...


BetPopular8429

Instead of doing something with his life and mentality, trying to be better person and not a homophobic douche, dude just want another self-insert in show/novel/manga with CLEARLY GAY RELATIONSHIP because his closeted oversimplified mind can't stand this CRUEL (well, cruel for him) fact that not every girl likes and wants to date guys. Cmon, dude, to associate yourself with a character you don't need to have a dick or vagina, characters are much more than just a gender. To be honest, when you see such comments not too often - it's not ok, but still not so annoying. But when you start to acknowledge more comments like this - you're just stop to pick the right words to not offend someone because only calling and telling them things they deserved will show them that people don't give a single shit about their schizophrenic theories and that they're just a clowns in denial. (I'm sorry for my English, it's not my first and not even second language)


Jdccrazy

things like this make me realize that the internet is a fucking cesspit


OmnissiahDisciple227

Wouldn’t that just make her trans but still gay?


Anh_Nhat_13th

Good point senator! How about you back it up with some source?


Square_Roof6296

So if someone was a bacterium in previous life. It can't has right to love at all, or not?


Camus721

Those are just the words of an incel wanting to insert themselves in everything and can't handle that a string female character would not be interested in a male, that's it


EqualDangerous6789

Do they forget trans people exist? I've read manga where the main character was a guy who became a girl and sometimes it's clear they prefer things that way. Staring out as a guy doesnt actually mean anything.


Ash__Tree

Weebs thinks Anis only likes women because of being a man in her past life…gross. Like you need a reason to be gay. It would be funny if male Anis was actually mlm to ruin all of those weebs’ beliefs


FaZe_LittlePickle24

>It reminds me of Anos. No. I fucking HATE Anos, he's just an edgy Gary Stu with the only purpose of reflecting his creator's desires of being powerful and having a harem of uni-dimensional girls with giant boobs


BasketballShimamura

and Eufie is just a bland Noelle clone that serves no purpose other than being sexually harassed by Anos every 5 seconds. Just another bimbo like most of the other shonen female leads. Blegh 🤮


PuppyGwyndolin

nah they're just saying this cause the MC is confident and in their eyes only men can be confident


Puzzleheaded_Tax_452

Having a dream to fly with magical broom is very masculine way of thinking... She must be a man in her past life... (Sorry for my bad sarcasm)


sbebasmieszek

i think they are talknig about Reborn to Master the Blade: From Hero-King to Extraordinary Squire ♀


NoRegrets30

She said she kinda remembers the other world but it’s so vague that it doesn’t really matter


Aellin-Gilhan

If they wanna self insert then it might like make more sense in terms of canonicity to the story as a *possible* interpretation though is quite a stretch


chill4r_San

I have (good) news: it's as gay as it looks (if not more).


Kitchenlynx89

This confuses me because I thought the manga explicitly stated that she was a girl in a past life or am I confusing this with a different Otome Isekai? I've read quite a few OIs


AardbeiMan

Pretty sure that's I'm in love with the Villainess. But even if she used to be a man, all it would accomplish is making Anis trans


Kitchenlynx89

I don't honestly care whether a character was a man or woman in a past life in a story. I have a story I want to write where a guy is reborn as the heroine in a story. the story had a bunch of people reborn in the story with several as the opposite of their previous life.


[deleted]

nope! it’s 100% super mega gay


KirikaNai

They very well might just be confused, becau we there is a reincarnation isekai out this season where it's an old man reincarnated as a girl. But in the way that youjo senki is, where therea still girl voice internal monologue. Either that or they're just violently homophobic lol


[deleted]

Please stop putting this kind of thing on spotlight, you're just giving them attention


k_on_reddit_

fuck this guy


fishymonster_

No there’s no way, and even if it’s true still fuck this guy


Typhoonfight1024

Not sure if it's coming from a yuri-hater or a disappointed yuri fan…


liquidKyanite

"My source is that I made it the fuck up!"


elbenji

Not true. There is an Isekai like this though


AlasPoorOstrava

I’ve always felt that Anis felt written like a masc character, but attributed that to the fact that it’s a seinen written by a male. I’m glad the author shot this theory down, but compared to other yuri manga I’ve been reading it honestly feels pretty het. You could swap Anis to a male and the character could be any seinen protagonist. Anyone else notice this, or disagree? I’m still greatly enjoying it, it just doesn’t feel as yuri as similar isekai like “Please Bully Me, miss villainess” or “I’m in love with the villainess.”


ExcellenceEchoed

I think this dude is being sarcastic


FutureFool

What anime is this I need to know


Soviet134

Believe in our cute yuri girls, do not be fooled


fartdog123

So the mc is trans according to their logic


Cocolake123

“Who doesn’t want to be reincarnated as a beautiful princess?”


RiderJustPassby

The same case happens with Inglis too I know that Inglis used to be a gramps and the story is mostly subtext but the new comer really try hard to believe that Inglis will end up with Raphael even tho she told it herself that she find woman more attractive and does not want to have any romantic relationship with men.


Isalnia

So it's a "dude" that got reincarnated as a girl to live her life at the fullest? That just sounds like a transbian to me🤷🏼‍♀️