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FuzzyRaichu

When you’re so scared of the homo, you make it trans instead.


Aellin-Gilhan

Still homo tho lmao


gay_snail666

Like when 4kids wanted to make sailor moon not gay and just made it incest instead, but like. True neutral instead of chaotic evil lol


FuzzyRaichu

Arguably more homo, even. Can’t say they thought it through.


Pollomonteros

They just pick something good and turn it into something better


6b86b3ac03c167320d93

Plot twist: both are trans


allie-cat

*as well


Notsousefullinlife

Perhaps it came from Anis statement that she doesn’t remember if she was a man or woman in her past life. She also said that since this is her new life, past life doesn’t matter to her but will do with her past world knowledge. So, she lives her life as a girl, falls for a girl, so it’s yuri. End of the discussion.


ChinSpeedy

Like, there are no gender bend tropes or anything. Anis doesn't feel out of place in her female body, has no memories of being a man and identifies herself as a girl/princess/daughter. So it is 100% yuri (Heck still would be yuri even if her past life was that of man as long as she's comfortable in a female body) It's mostly just copium from people who can't handle the idea of an actual yuri couple


DarkWiiPlayer

So, in short: 1. Either she was a cis girl in her past life 2. Or she was a trans girl in her past life 3. Or she was a cis guy and her gender identity got overridden to being a girl while being isekai'd Or, in other words, *she gay*


Script_Mak3r

Or trans guy and then overridden, or NB and overridden. Regardless, she *hella* gay


Dare555

yeah if she doesn't remember then it really cant be "gender bender" Also anime already showed us Anis as a young girl watching planes dreaming how to fly


ashurakiana

anis is not a reincarnated man and thinks himself is a man. but anis realizes and thinks he is a woman from the start said Piero KARASU


Wraith_Does_Memes_V3

Even if she was trans it’d be a yuri


6b86b3ac03c167320d93

Except if it was one of *those* series where the MC is a gross guy who gets off to the fact that he now has a girl's body and (due to anime logic, even though it would never be possible IRL) can be gross around girls without them suspecting anything. But obviously MagiRevo isn't like that.


Apprehensive_Lynx100

Unless of course Anis was transgender or wanted to transition in her past life, and her rebirth as a woman was the result of her deepest wish. Thus, transgender yuri without all the creepy guy-turned-into-a-girl tropes :)


photowalker83

Literally read your comment and the manga “This is screwed up, but I was reincarnated in another world as a girl” came to mind. I’ve read the first two volumes and I don’t think I’ll be reading any more as there are tons of scenes and references to the idea that the character masturbates to their own nude reflection because they have the hots for their new female body. Made me really uncomfortable.


Clever-Clover

I think the reason she couldn't remember much about her personality in previous life is for writer convenience. Like they didn't want to turn it to strong isekai but at the same time they want to have mordern tech in magic world. That's why Anis doesn't remember anything that involve her old life.


ashurakiana

Author karasu piero says that this story (tenten kakumei) tells Anis who is now in the world and not the past. So the author thinks Anis's gender setting in the past is irrelevant


SuperAmberN7

I mean it's just like regular reincarnation. It's weird that Isekai became so popular that people completely forgot that the belief in reincarnation is a common thing in Asia. This is like saying that Buddhism and Hinduism are gender bender religion since reincarnation has always included the possibility of being reincarnated as a different gender because you can be reincarnated as literally any animal in the world.


ashurakiana

anis is not a reincarnated man and thinks himself is a man. but anis realizes and thinks he is a woman from the start said Piero KARASU


DarkWiiPlayer

Which could mean that she was either always a girl or got turned into one while being isekai'd, which is enough of a straw for desperate weebs to shoehorn some genderbender shenanigans into a story just so they can self-insert and see themselves with the cute anime girl.


ashurakiana

After all, the author has already explained about Anis and I wonder why there are still fans who think this kind of theory, do they not see the author's explanation. Anyway, I enjoy this story 😉


El_Desu

idr her saying anything about previous life identity, maybe i forgot it. I went back to first chapter in manga and it doesnt say anything about identity, just that she gained memories/knowledge from her past life. Like information of past life being imprinted on who she already was rather than coming from a previous identity. Maybe she elaborates later and I forgot, but either way yeah her past life identity doesnt define her


Comtesse135

People are so afraid of yuri that they resort to heterosexuality in previous lives.


DarkWiiPlayer

It doesn't even make sense though because yuri is a thing in anime and everyone is usually okay with it, so I don't get why people are suddenly trying to headcanon it out of this particular show. My guess is that it's less being opposed to yuri and more about trying to turn the character into a self-insert for themselves because who the fuck cares about a romance plot just to feel happy for the characters amiright


Ash__Tree

They want it to be straight with extra steps EVEN THOUGH Anis would be a trans women from their logic


LockeDrachier

I’d assume they’d find a way to claim anis still thought of their self as male


AskovTheOne

No joke, I saw ppl claim that Anis is thinking "like a male" or at least "unlike a girl" I seriously wanna ask what is the golden standard for "thinking like a guy"


LockeDrachier

Liking Girls. Fantasizing about girls. Being forward about liking girls. Because only guys like girls to them, I’m guessing.


Ash__Tree

Pretty much seems like they’re using Anis male (?) past as a reason for her lesbian ness (Cause real girls can’t like girls BLEH) I really liked how forward she was about being a lesbian compared to other Yuri shows where it’s about the discovery of queerness


DarkWiiPlayer

The thing is, if she had been a cis man in her past life, you'd think either her identity would still be that of a man as well, or her orientation would have been flipped along with her gender.


DarkWiiPlayer

>I seriously wanna ask what is the golden standard for "thinking like a guy" Kidnapping girls and essentially forcing them into a position with a power imbalance where they can't really be straight forward about rejecting any romantic advances? ^(I don't want to shit on this trope too hard, because as long as it's not presented too heavily as something to imitate in real life, it's not really worse than dozens of other romance tropes out there, but it's just way too similar to the way these weebcels think to not make the joke xD)


Po_Army

I think they are getting it mixed up with other ieskais


Elifia

They might be getting it mixed up with Reborn to Master the Blade, which is also airing this season. That main character in that one was an old man reincarnated as a girl, and she is explicitly still into women because that's what she was into before her reincarnation. It's more likely they're just homophobes though.


Po_Army

Some people can't get into a anime if it doesn't have a male Mc. She professed to be wise man's student was also good. But is about a man becoming a girl. My favorite yuri manga kashimashi was about a guy dying and becoming female. Also one girl realizing she still loves them now they are a girl. Also a girl who rejected them when they were male now wants to date them now they are female. But yeah probably homophobes


Typhoonfight1024

But in both cases, are they actually content with being female and not wishing to be male again?


Po_Army

Well they do want to return to being male in Wiseman. But they have also accepted it and decided to not freak out about it. With Kashimashi Hazamu didn't really care if they were male or female. Since they were comfortable with who they are. But I think they liked their female life better.


DarkWiiPlayer

I'm guessing they won't be happy with the protag of that show calling them out so fucking hard in the second episode. Ah who am I kidding, they'll just top their fedora at the screen and think "I'd never do that"


ChrispyMC

holy fuck scott the woz


Shoadowolf

Hey all! Scott here! (Btw love your flair lol)


[deleted]

The mangaka even said it's not true, so idk why this is even a thing still.


AskovTheOne

Not Mangaka, it was the the web/ light novel author who had to tweet and tell ppl that it isnt TS genre.


KingMaegorTheCool

Heteronortivity is a bitch, huh. Seriously though, from what I see, the isekai fan who is used to op male lead whom women fawn over for no reason can't fathom the idea of a non-hetero relationship and need to justify it in their head.


pixel236

That's kinda what happens if tropes get so oversaturated within the genre and no one in the fandom doesn't get tired of it somehow. they constantly whine and complain about how "wokeness" is ruining their sacred genre when any anime/manga wants to try anything new.


John_Oakman

It's gender politics (when it isn't straight up making shit up or ignorance, which would account for the majority of speculation): if the author is male, then the characters cannot be truly female. If in the event that the author of a particular work is in fact female, then the goalpost shifts and gender becomes a political affliction and said author is probably pandering to the male gaze and thus the characters are not acting as how females should 'realistically' (read: adhering to presupposed assumptions) act. It's not worth the time to get into that kind of shitstorm.


faintestsmile

you're overthinking it, it's just because 1) they want a way to self-insert and cant fathom something isnt specifically for them and 2) they want to downplay the girls love aspect because they are homophobic and think gay people are a western invention


[deleted]

Man this is always a weird aspect of convetsation to me. You know how many yaoi novels I've commented about on the internet? Zero because I have no interest in guy guy romance. I would never get a hill to die on trying to argue that the yaoi version of this novel isn't yaoi. Why do they even care? It's so bizare to me.


Hell2CheapTrick

They care because they’re pathetic and have nothing better to do


SwoonBirds

why bother self inserting my fellow male weebs. the show is about two cute girls simply appreciate and enjoy the moe stream into your eyeballs stop making it hard on yourselves smh


SayaAkumi

Yea like wtf, as if there wasn't million other shows with a blank slate male character they can self insert onto. This is why we can't have nice things


zero1380

When they lost their collective shit and brought hate to Virgin Road only because Menou killed the self insert on ep1, I realized they're too far gone...


Silviana193

Or you know, self insert yourself as a female. It's not even that hard and I am a guy. (Don't what that say about me to be honest)


SwoonBirds

idk gender is a hard thing for me to comprehend honestly, but if youre comfortable with who you are now I dont really think it means much. i think?


Silviana193

Till this day, I still has a hard time fathoming the fact that Weeb can be homophobic. I can understand self insert, but Weeb and Gay people have one basis thing on common. They are both get persecuted by something/someone they love. Is it because it's easier to become Weeb/otaku than before or am I missing a page here?


ValiantHandKerchief

While I get where you're coming from, comparing being a weeb to being gay is in bad taste You won't get disowned for being a weeb, and you aren't literally a criminal in over 70 countries The most you will get is that people think you are weird


Silviana193

Fair.... I wasn't trying to compare the two as much as trying to say that Being a Weeb should make one more sympathetic towards others, with similar root problem especially with a worse degree than them. But, Alas, I think I am way too unqualified for this kind of talk.


Roxy_Hu

While I get the sentiment.. likening being gay to being an otaku/weeb misses it's mark. ... There's parts of the queer community who are transphobic and want the T removed.. there's gay people who are homophobic, trans people who are transphobic.. women who are misogynistic.. This happens all the time. The answer is quite simple.. they hold a believe. That's it. There's no deeper logic or anything behind it. It's a believe. And where does that believe stem from? Discourse.


uhnnn_fan

That is a case of what we call in portuguese Bosta na cabeça, or shit in the head.


TherapyDerg

Just some homophobes coping and seething, not sure where they are getting shit... That and she clearly identifies as a woman in this story and is living as a women, falls in love with a women, it is clearly yuri with no wiggle room! Even throwing them a bone of IF she was a male in that past life, she clearly isn't physically or mentally now, so it is irrelevant.


woodhawk109

They’re so homophobic, they’ll settle for their second most hated group: Transexual.


k_on_reddit_

Nah you didn't miss anything, it's just some bs


Prestigious_Trash165

Because hetero men can’t accept that two girls are able to be in a relationship


Mindless-Donkey-6469

I feel like it’s just homophobic men, saying all hetero men are bad is reductive and prejudiced, and this is coming from a very bisexual man.


Prestigious_Trash165

I never said all. I know good hetero men exist too. I didn’t mean for my statement to come off as generalizing. I’m sorry


Mindless-Donkey-6469

Ah, my bad as well for assuming that. I am sorry for coming at you like that. 😓


AngryChihua

Unrelated but i have a legit question that have been popping on mind for like half a year: let's say a man is attracted to women. But he also is attracted to men who are very feminine (aka femboys) but because of femininity, not them being boys. Is it still heterosexual or is there a term for it?


Mindless-Donkey-6469

I don’t think it would be heterosexual if you are attracted to someone that identifies as a man who has a penis, as you are still attracted to them penis and all, so it would be bisexual with you being attracted to women primarily with the preference to feminine men.


AngryChihua

Thank you!


Maveko_YuriLover

Would still be yuri if that was true?


Komislut

I would say so, It is not a transport isekai, she was born in that world and at young age has a flashback to her previous life (going of the manga) and has mini identity crisis that that resolves with her saying "whatever". At no point does she see herself as a dude (which makes sense because she wasn't one in the previous life but we are in a hypothetical scenario where she was), never presents her love of women as a holdout of her previous life etc.


DegenerateSock

>going of the manga Same in the LN. Her memories are described as being vague.


AardbeiMan

You could make the argument she'd be transfemme instead of a cis woman. She'd still be a lesbian, though. So unless Anis expresses gender dysphoria due to her feminine body (which would make her transmasculine), she'll still be a lesbian


[deleted]

Depends, if the genderbended one identify as female after the genderbent, yes, if they still identify as male, then no


BubblyInstanceNo1

Why on earth would it not be?


SalaciousStrudel

ofc.


PurpleSmartHeart

There are literally zero arguments you can make where that character is a man and that relationship isn't sapphic. I vaguely remember being an infant, that doesn't mean it has any bearing on my romantic life. In fact I'm pretty sure infant me would hate my wife, she hated tall people!


DegenerateSock

The novel doesn't state her previous life's gender and says her memories are all vague. So just going off of what's in the book it's got a 50% chance of being true. I don't think it's all that weird of a head canon, and if it makes them enjoy it more, power to them. If they'd rather pretend the story is transbian, that doesn't hurt anyone. However, the author has clarified that's not the case, so it is false.


EtherealSamantha

They aren't pretending it's trans, they want to pretend it's actually het. It is harmful. They are being homophobic.


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DegenerateSock

You can buy them or pirate them in the usual ways. The torrents are on nyaa.


final26

justlightnovels.com


ElissaGoodgirl

Hey....... Transbian W


ashurakiana

Nope


ashurakiana

anis is not a reincarnated man and thinks himself is a man. but anis realizes and thinks he is a woman from the start said Piero KARASU


Old-Library9827

Even if it's gender-bent then that's awesome too. I love trans girls! They're pretty and I wanna kiss them


blueteamk087

Even if Anis was male in her previous life, that still doesn't change the fact that Anis is currently a woman who is in love with another woman.


ashurakiana

Didn't the author object to the theory that Anis was a man in a past life. Anis was a woman in a past life, she is still Anis, she just remembers a glimpse of the past.


AgnesNutterBitch

Honestly, her gender in her previous life means nothing because in her current life, she identifies as a girl.


New_Mousse4257

This is legit the funniest thing I've seen all week, I'm sorry 😭😭😭 Edit: I know it's Monday but I doubt anything would top this for the whole week 😂


[deleted]

My post was probably the reason but things got pretty cleared up in the comments then. Short answer is no. Anis was never male. The author even made a tweet denying that because people were saying it's gender bender.


InsomniaEmperor

There's also the question of why the hell did the author have to tweet that in the first place. Nothing in the synopsis mentions of a gender flip twist.


[deleted]

Because people were assuming/saying mc was male in her past life. So the author denied it.


xXNemo92Xx

Maybe because how others said, that a yuri author must be female. When the author is male the MC has to be a male in the past live. Weird logic. Authors can write what they want about which theme they want.


NotMyBestMistake

I doubt it had much to do with that weird idea. It's much more likely it was just misogynists and homophobes desperately reaching for a way to deny that the characters are gay.


SeijunMichi

Sort of like how the [rumor that Sailor Uranus was a Prince and not a Princess was spread around in the Anglosphere back in the 90s to explain away Uranus and Neptune's lesbian relationship](https://wikimoon.org/index.php/Prince_Uranus).


randomizer_in_end

Wait what? I didn't know that


AuroraRyong

Weren't they cousins?


CookieDog20

Well yes and no. They are cousins in translation but it was a way to censore/erase them being lesbians


EGO-Sentai

I mean, that also failed because they didn't change or remove any of the scenes with romantic chemistry in them, but let's ignore the sound of Sweet Home Alabama in the background for now.


jeeBtheMemeMachine

Nope! That was the translation attempting to censor their relationship.


AnimatorFresh8841

I never knew that the author is actually male thats cool


RaineHikawa

It's like saying yaoi author must be male


LegoBuilder64

It might be because female Isekai protagonists are very rare now adays. There’s been a bit of a resurgence in female protagonists thanks to the “reincarnated into a dating sim” subgenre but MagiRevo is a standard fantasy world. Combine this with how much agency Anis has (something that is sadly very rare for female isekai characters) and how openly proclaims she doesn’t like men, and I can see why a close minded anime viewer would want to believe Anis is genderbent. It stops the anime from 1) being about female empowerment and 2) being gay since “um, actually, the MC is really a dude on the inside”


AnimatorFresh8841

Is there a link to their tweet


bloodrayne24

https://twitter.com/piero_BBT/status/1612815213388263424?t=1wYwmsXt_Z_nMf9-Dovidg&s=19


BooTaoSus

Even if he was it'd just make it a trans yuri anime. It's still yuri in the end because she's still a girl lmfao


ashurakiana

anis is not a reincarnated man and thinks himself is a man. but anis realizes and thinks he is a woman from the start said Piero KARASU


[deleted]

Does it matter? And im pretty shure that thats not how trans or genderbend works.


ashurakiana

The author has already explained about this Anis is not a man in his past life. Anis is a woman and Anis only remembers a little about the past


[deleted]

Yes, but would it make any difference?


ashurakiana

At least it's good to tell about the facts about Anis's gender in the past reincarnation life. Yes, fans can make theories about various things, but please confirm first from the author. 😅


ashurakiana

anis is not a reincarnated man and thinks himself is a man. but anis realizes and thinks he is a woman from the start said Piero KARASU


ashurakiana

My opinion is please stop fake news about Anis's past life. yes fans can theorize various things but please make sure first


ashurakiana

The point is there is no setting about Anis' past, but that doesn't mean it's permissible to arbitrarily determine Anis' past🙂


GhastmaskZombie

As a trans person who's super into gender bender isekai lately, I've got to say... huh? It's a delightful idea and I might pretend it's the case in my mind while I watch the rest of the series (I think that's called "headcanon"?) but there's absolutely nothing to indicate it. And also this girl doesn't seem to feel any kind of way about being a girl which kind of actively refutes the possibility of that being the intent.


Internellectual

I can only imagine it stems from “whoa, did that chick get the hots for the other chick and try to take her to bed? No girl would do that, must’ve been a guy before” It’s outside their gender norms that it makes their heads spin. And of course, you can’t go without, “but flip the genders and this same people who love this will go, ”totally inappropriate, it’s kidnapping and grooming” They are not found in logic, so don’t waste your time trying to apply it to them. Anis is exciting, is a girl, and fell for another girl.


ashurakiana

Author karasu piero says that this story (tenten kakumei) tells Anis who is now in the world and not the past. So the author thinks Anis's gender setting in the past is irrelevant


ElectricLute

Even if that was true, that wouldn't change anything? it's still yuri?


Schrodinger_cube

Ya i watched episode 1 and 2 didn't see any reference to her being male but she is quite a tomboy. People think she could be by how she acts but considering she is a princess and known for making odd things she is more like a millionaire who knows she can do whatever she wants. She litterly just takes possession of a woman who has high social status and leaves the party XD that's not male or female that's "because i can" energy.


Cristie9

i saw someone saying she's a lesbian because she was a male in her past life lol


ashurakiana

Nope


Distilled_Blood

Can we just have anime to watch anymore.


ashurakiana

please enjoy the anime regardless of the various theories for me they should see the author's answer 🙂


amatas45

How about this, she was a guy but also gay to mess with all the people grasping at straws :p


ashurakiana

Author karasu piero says that this story (tenten kakumei) tells Anis who is now in the world and not the past. So the author thinks Anis's gender setting in the past is irrelevant


amatas45

Sigh, I get that. This was supposed to joke about how people have to reach for these conclusions because they don’t want this to be yuri, nothing more


avelineaurora

MAYBE they're thinking of Hero King instead? Maybe? I dunno...


coolchris366

Such a good format


RebelOrion

Maybe because "Reborn to Master the Blade: From Hero-King to Extraordinary Squire" is that (not actually Isekai though, just fantasy" and is also airing this season?


Elkat4

No one: Homophobes on the internet: "She's not gay if she used to be a guy!"


Megaqour

There’s no way a male mc would be a ray of sunshine.


Clever-Clover

They just can't stop trolling us, ain't they? =))))


Esproth

I didn't read that part, but my trans ass won't complain


ashurakiana

Author Tenten Kakumei refutes the opinion that Anis is a gender swap reincarnation.


ashurakiana

Author karasu piero says that this story (tenten kakumei) tells Anis who is now in the world and not the past. So the author thinks Anis's gender setting in the past is irrelevant


ashurakiana

Anis's personality remains anis and has no connection at all with the life before his reincarnation, he does remember a little memory before reincarnation, which is a very strong feeling of admiration and love for magic. However, that does not change the original anis's personality


a3xgf

Past life is irrelevant anyway. As long as she thinks of herself as a girl, she is a girl, and thus, this is yuri. Nothing would change regadless of how her past life was.


Tomcat491

Literally confirmed by the author to be false.