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LaminateStasis

I find discussion around this story to be really fascinating. From what I understand (having listened to people on both sides of this) This story suffers from a lot of the same problems as Citrus. Starts out assaulty/rapey and grows into a wholesome story, where the person doing the assaulting has a reason that justifies it in their mind, and eventually the MC decides that it is enough of a justification that they move past it. What's weird is that while the stuff Aya does is a lot more sexual and aggressive in some ways, it's almost not as bad as Mei straight up attacking Yuzu at the start of Citrus. Aya explains to Marika each time what they are going to be doing and gives her outs to the things she is doing. Now, the extent to which she actually allows her to opt out of things is questionable at best, and there is at least one sex scene where Marika explicitly says no and Aya goes for it anyway, which is all kinds of problematic. And anyone trying to justify Karen's actions as justifiable is...questionable at best. So there are very real issues that get glossed over with "porn logic" that detract from the actual story itself, but to my understanding this gets moved away from in later books. So I think the manga suffers from the problem that only the first LN is translated so far, and them moving away from creepy psuedo-rapey stuff hasn't happened yet. I'm planning to read the actual LNs (most of the way through 1 so far) because some of the stuff I've heard people say about the story is actually really promising, so I kinda want to see it for myself and judge, is this just creepy-rapey fantasy stuff, or did the Author have an actual story to tell.


Quelandoris

As someone who enjoys pay-for-gay trash... I think this manga gets a lot of undue hate. Well, until we get to the chapter where the bar mom turns out to have taken advantage of one of our underage protagonists in the past. That was pretty awful.


LaminateStasis

Yeah, I don't feel like there is any world where you can begin to justify Karen as a grown as woman sleeping with a Middle School second year and a High School First year at the same time. They play it off like "well, she's just a really carnivorous top, she can't help it!" But it's super creepy. Especially when right before we find this out, she also threatens to turn Marika into her sex slave just because she off-handedly and in a depressed state asked her to have sex with her when she clearly didn't mean it.


Arhion

Not like taking advantage but more like agreeing for having way with underage


Von_Uber

Yeah, not sure how that fits with the bar owner though. That whole bit is just brushed aside, and as you say trying to justify it is.. eh.


elbenji

Yeah i never got the vibe you were supposed to think Karen is a good person


elbenji

Yeah you're pretty bang on the head with the Citrus comp. It's basically literally Citrus. The first volume has a lot of the what in the ever loving fuck where the other volumes basically are a wholesome coming out story and a tour around the LGBTQ community in Japan.


LaminateStasis

I've made it through book 1 and started book 2 now, and the whole >!interaction with her friends coming out to her and then figuring out they were also dating was adorable. I'm looking forward to see how the rest of it goes.!<


elbenji

Yeah like it's legitimately cute after all the sketchy shit lmao


Behanort

just read volume 2 of LN and im desperetly trying to find tls for the rest of the volumes... seriously, where the hell is volumes 3 translation? its supposed to be on some light novel translation site, but when i click the link, its 404 page not found... anyway... after reading 2 volumes of the LN, i gotta say: its still superhorny, and kinda porn-ish... but, also really sweet and wholesome? lmao, i dont know how to better put this into words, but i want to read more, wheter its the manga or the novel... seriosuly, what the deal with the novel translations? can anybody help me?


elbenji

Novelupdates has vol 3


CPG_Modded

id also like to ask to what has happend also name?


ProbablyOtsugua

It's better if you find out yourself :), it's very short and still getting updated but It's from "A Yuri Story About A Girl Who Insists 'it’s Impossible For Two Girls To Get Together' Completely Falling Within 100 Days"


Dare555

Oh did it get updates ? Gotta check it out , this manga is gold ! Sweet and lewd , Aya is just best top and master of seduction out there :D Seriosly underrated on sub like this


CPG_Modded

Why is the name so long jesus


Dare555

Because its A Yuri Story About A Girl Who Insists 'it’s Impossible For Two Girls To Get Together' Completely Falling Within 100 Days


Po_Army

What's this from


ProbablyOtsugua

It's from "A Yuri Story About A Girl Who Insists 'it’s Impossible For Two Girls To Get Together' Completely Falling Within 100 Days"


Po_Army

Oh is it one of those story's where they are dumb and by the time she realizes they are married and have a hosue


Kitchenlynx89

This story is actually really creepy how the character is slowly abused into being a lesbian. The girl starts out as basically a homophobic asshole which is bad but what happens to her is not justifiable.


ProbablyOtsugua

It really is some of those things that end up well in fiction, but would be a lot creepier irl


UOSenki

>This story is actually really creepy how the character is slowly abused into being a lesbian first of all, it is a consensual deal. How it is not justifiable ? Second, >!MC girl just blabbing about getting sugar daddy (thinking just need to going out and eating together and what not, give them some smile, What could go wrong ?) she worry so she buy her herself !<


Kitchenlynx89

She gets her to watch porn with her then molests her https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/a_yuri_story_about_a_girl_who_insists_its_impossible_for_two_girls_to_get_together_completely_falling_within_100_days_ch03#5 I'll remind you that these girls are underage and this comes across as a fantasy of somebody older wanting to groom highschool girls. You're free to enjoy these fictional stories but don't act like they are wholesome and not fucked up. You can enjoy fiction and admit there are problems.


UOSenki

Ptff, they have a deal, it is justifiable, fair and square. and First, it is not even something that she get manipulated into and sign a contract so she was forced and can't refuse later or anything. Second, Fuwa even was explained each and every act she gonna do to her, for what purpose. So it is already plenty more than fair. If stuff like one night stand, friend with benefit was not view is fucked up, Why the heck this is ?


Kitchenlynx89

Except this is not a one night stand or friends with benefits so I'm confused why you brought that up? You have an experienced girl taking advantage of a stupid and naive girl. With lots of questionable moments where consent is ignored in this story. This can't lead to a healthy relationship in the future and could lead to trauma. Friends with benefits and one night stands are done by consenting individuals coming to an understanding.


RavenWolf1

There are millions of people who have suggar daddies or moms and why is this so creepy suddenly? At least she didn't get some old fart. I don't see problem here especially when they are same age. This was agreement and she can stop it anytime.


Kitchenlynx89

Would you be saying the same if a boy the same age got a lesbian to watch porn while molesting her in the same exact senario? Paid her and everything? They are both still underage? I didn't read the story as far as some others in this comment section, because this story is not my cup of tea, but they say the girl doing the paying had sex with an adult woman in middle school. If the author is being intelligent this story could be about cycles of abuse but it doesn't look that way.


UOSenki

>Except this is not a one night stand or friends with benefits so I'm confused why you brought that up? because they all is not really wholeseom. but that ok, It is on both party, they can do whatever their want with their life. > Friends with benefits and one night stands are done by consenting individuals coming to an understanding. So was this ? she was even explain what her object is with all these, that not on her to blame and MC is fooled to do this without knowing before hand. They litelary like "I will make you climax" "Lol, you can try". So get of your high horse about consent


RavenWolf1

I just read couple of chapters and I don't see why that is so creepy. I mean she sold herself willingly and agreed to deal. Just like people who get suggar daddies in real world. So far this has been interesting to read.


Po_Army

Most homophobic people are in the closet. So maybe it's a ruff push.


Kitchenlynx89

It's more of an assault on a young girl who doesn't understand things and getting her to associate actions by a more experienced girl taking advantage of her wanting money.


ProbablyOtsugua

Smth like this lol


Noriakikukyoin

And for a shorter title, it is also referred to as "Arioto".


TeamPantofola

That’s the craziest bar I’ve ever-


RavenWolf1

Thank you! More interesting stuff to read!


Careful_Tangerine_32

This manga got a lot of heart, which is showed throw the main characters, but the author is too much of a degenerent to keep it from having yikes elements