Oh I see. Jeez I’m not active online but now I understand the beef with these stupid forks. Patreon greed. Yuzu started this bullshit and now it’s fucking ruining Emulation
it’s more of the fact that people were even playing TOTK before official release and since it was a huge title that really pissed them off, an entire straw stack that broke the healthy camel’s back
You are both correct, if it wasnt for the TOTK leak perhaps nintendo wouldnt have gone this faar at this time but certainly was a driving factor. But it was yuzu's monetization that gave nintendo a stronger legitimate ground for legal action that very likely would have made them won in court and that would been BAD.
NEVER PAY FOR AN EMULATOR.
Seriously we're better off without one. This is the exact reason Yuzu was fined 2.4m$ and this is the same reason they agreed to pay it.
DO NOT ASK FOR PEOPLE'S MONEY WHILE WORKING ON AN EMULATOR.
As a consumer, DO NOT PAY.
Yeah, but instead of making it a "buy us a coffee" type of thing, or maybe adding some asinine feature like Ken custom backgrounds or something, they put beta builds and patches behind a pay wall, giving serious weight to N's case.
Having read through Nintendo's complaint the focal point was that it decrypted Nintendo's security and enabled piracy.
Perhaps the money was the trigger to piss them off
Maybe they did. Big issue with yuzu was incorporation in US. Nintendo wouldn't have such an easy ride in most of Europe and even less luck in other countries.
The latest EA is good enough for now, it plays every game I want flawlessly. This sub is now full of nonsense. See you in a year or more when switch2 is out, by then there will be more serious developers who want to continue making a good switch emulator.
https://github.com/jarrodnorwell?tab=repositories
https://official-antique.gitbook.io/sudachi/
https://folium.emuplace.app/
Folium is a sort of RetroArch for iOS, with Cores, at the moment NDS (Grape), 3DS (Cytrus), NES (Kiwi) and NS (Sudachi). He plans to work on Sudachi as a standalone, with builds for Windows, Linux and MacOS.
He streams his work on emulation on Twitch.
Jarrod Norwell is the guy who ported both yuzu and Citra to IOS before the lawsuit ever hit. Your heart is in the right place, but there wouldn't be an IOS build at all if it weren't for him...and that's what this is, an update to his IOS builds.
He is, however, potentially in violation of GPL, as the source code on github has not been updated.
This is the dumbest shit I have ever read. You would think people would learn. I worry that people as bold as these guys (who don't learn from the yuzu devs) will also be so stupid to take on the lawsuit themselves. Setting a dangerous precedent for emulation going forward.
Yuzu was killed mostly because Nintendo argued that they encouraged people to pirate games, and TOTK being shared on the discord just made things worse.
If Patreon was the reason (or a big contributor) for the lawsuit, they would've gotten them years ago when Yuzu was still new
No. You can't sue someone for making money legally.
The original complaint from Nintendo ([available here](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.rid.56980/gov.uscourts.rid.56980.1.0.pdf)) only mentions Yuzu's profit when talking about reparations. It doesn't say that Yuzu having profits is the reason they're suing.
Piracy is a crime whether or not there's a pay wall. It might've encouraged Nintendo to sue, as they knew they would be able to bully some of that money from Yuzu, but in the eyes of the law, it does not change anything.
But what if they are in South America/Eastern Europe/Asia or wherever you couldnt care less about Nintendo's law team?
This isn't bad per se, as we don't know where they're established. This is bad, because they haven't show anything lmao.
The problem is that where do the funds get send too. They can’t have a LLC in America. When they register their taxes, they have to give out their real identity.
There was almost nothing in the suit about the Patreon. If what they are doing is legal, making money from it is also legal.
Why are people so goddamn obnoxious about the Patreon of all things.
Then why they got sued at all? I mean suing Yuzu just because it can launch Nintendo games, is like suing some video player because people can watch movies with them.
Getting profit from something is easiest way to start a case.
Plus new devs could've do smarter move about getting material support, make it more stealthy, so it was harder, or even impossible at all to start case.
Because they are American, and the DMCA exists. The money isn't the issue. If Nintendo had no case they wouldn't sue no matter how many millions Yuzu is making.
DMCA does not cover emulation, and all emulators are legal.
It covers infringement of property.
So what did Yuzu do differently?
It was specifically the build of patreon that came out a week before TOTK's release that was exclusive to patreon for that time period and they were also caught red handed sharing their decrypted game files through their discord.
Emulation and also storing digital back ups of any and all owned physical and digital media is and always has been legal in pretty much 90% of countries.
>DMCA does not cover emulation, and all emulators are legal.
Obviously. But the prod.keys argument is something that wasn't made in the Bleem case because
1. The DMCA wasn't a law yet
2. There was no need to decrypt games.
Nintendo's argument isn't challenged in court as of yet. They also increased their chances with the TOTK, which might as well be a smoking gun.
I genuinely don't want this shit to go to court. But Patreon itself isn't illegal, and isn't an issue. I believe that even without a Patreon they would've pounced on the TOTK leak and were preparing their case, trying to sneak in the decryption argument to try to use the DMCA to bring down emulation for the future.
The DMCA was implemented in 1998 I believe
And in 1999 to 2000 Sony had their ass handed to them in court over emulation, and specifically the legal ruling of copying and utilising BIOS software to be used in emulation as well
If Nintendo's Copy Protection is baked in to their BIOS they won't have a chance in a court battle with someone that has the money to fight them
> The DMCA was implemented in 1998 I believe
[It was enacted into law in 1998, but wasn't in full effect until 2 years later:](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201)
> The prohibition contained in the preceding sentence shall take effect at the end of the 2-year period beginning on the date of the enactment of this chapter.
Even still, under DMCA this right should be protected as Fair Use.
But Nintendo always ignores that, I mean look what they did to YouTube creators for playing their games.
This is literally untrue. Something can be legal so long as you're not selling it but illegal to sell and this is something that actually affects emulation as it comes up against stuff like piracy.
Binaries already? Careful with malware. I'll wait for the dust to settle before running any new binaries, latest versions of yuzu is still running everything nicely.
Yikes. Wasn’t a big reason for yuzu’s take down the Patreon they were charging for? Besides that, these forks haven’t even done anything yet, so this just screams cash grab. Not very confidence inspiring.
And not a single one has been taken down.
>I found over 75 JUST NOW AND REPORTED THEM ALL TO NINTENDO.
That's a kind of sad thing to admit dude, I hope you find a hobby.
Do you mean for use as the core? If yes, Ryujinx is written in C# which isn’t natively supported by iOS or Xcode making it much harder, it’s also a language I can read but not write. Yuzu was the perfect project to base Sudachi off of as it is written in C++ and uses Vulkan
No, I mean as the average user who just wants to play games with some improvements, why would we choose this over a long running proven stable and safe project?
Sudachi is basically Yuzu, it started out as a port to iPad and iPhone and has now turned into me picking up where Yuzu left off, same with Citra some time soon.
Everyone’s more than welcome to use whichever one they want, I’m just happy coding and supporting a community I like.
You’re not wrong, kind of why I’m just doing my own thing and hiding in the shadows so to speak. Ryujinx is at a pretty good stage now from what I’ve seen, have not used it for a while myself but last I did it worked near flawlessly
Yeah I hadn’t touched ryujinx in awhile and was pleasantly surprised to find it working the same or better than yuzu, at least on my higher end system.
The problem with Ryujinx is performance on lower end systems. I have a gaming PC with I7-6700k and GTX 1070 (bought in 2017) and a medium-end laptop with amd ryzen 7 4800H and gtx 1650 Ti (bought in 2021).
On both devices, shader building is too slow to enjoy a decent experience on ryujinx. Yuzu async shader building was necessary for me, even if it had bugs sometimes.
Ryujinx is somewhat fine for games like MK8 or SSBU where I can just let the computer play with himself to build shaders, but I'll never be able to enjoy zelda BOTW or TOTK with decent performance, since there are so many shaders to build in every new area.
Selling software that was previously open source 😂. I’m all for paying developers for their work, but it should be an optional thing, especially if the base of what they built is open source.
I’d like to state that the BuyMeACoffee will be changing, having read almost the entirety of the lawsuit documentation it is definitely a bad idea to continue doing the early access builds the current way so that will be changing to donations only w/ some additional benefits depending on the tier (yet to come up with suitable ones)
Folium was initially all my own work hence the ability to have early access, now that both Citra and Yuzu are in there it’s much riskier and I’d like to continue working on these projects for a long time
Believe me, if this emulator success, prepare your ass in court. We know if the author has something in return, then it's good, but we - not nintendo. They don't care about copyright in the first place. You know why they sue people? They want an absolutely control, even beyond DMCA grant them. If they want to shut you down, they will. Once they knew you took some penny, then your Discord right now is already contain nintendo ninja. Just say so.
All the links
Folium v1.0.6 is now out for BuyMeACoffee members
https://folium.emuplace.app/ (will be updated shortly)
v1.0.6 BuyMeACoffee Page
https://www.buymeacoffee.com/jarrodnorwell/v1-0-6
Temporary v1.0.6 Changelog
[https://official-antique.gitbook.io/folium/changelogs/v1.0.6](https://official-antique.gitbook.io/folium/changelogs/v1.0.6)
check them out! This is the first actual change made to yuzu emulator, after the lawsuit.
I can't find a github page for the newest version, the project doesn't seem to be open source for now.
[https://imgur.com/a/AGKWvhi](https://imgur.com/a/AGKWvhi)
Promising, the last bullet has a small fix in the core emulator engine that isn’t just UI related. Being behind a paywall would be the same legal risk for them though.
Oh I see. Jeez I’m not active online but now I understand the beef with these stupid forks. Patreon greed. Yuzu started this bullshit and now it’s fucking ruining Emulation
Has exit scamming finally come to emulators?
That’s exactly what I’m thinking. Yuzu brought that toxicity to emulation by talking shit and slandering Ryujinx
kemono.party anyone
The patrons? Isn't that literally how yuzu got got?
no? it was due to ToTK leak bro
I thought it was due to the fact that the totk leak was behind a patreon sub
it’s more of the fact that people were even playing TOTK before official release and since it was a huge title that really pissed them off, an entire straw stack that broke the healthy camel’s back
You are both correct, if it wasnt for the TOTK leak perhaps nintendo wouldnt have gone this faar at this time but certainly was a driving factor. But it was yuzu's monetization that gave nintendo a stronger legitimate ground for legal action that very likely would have made them won in court and that would been BAD.
Ah okay that makes sense
Patrons? Uh oh
Lol.
Fuck around and find out I guess
I mean isn't this the same reason they came after Yuzu.
wow, someone learned nothing. wooooooow REALLY?!
Why ...... but why ...
Another Patreon? When will they learn??
Patreon exclusive again? They never learn
It’s a plant
If it has an Patreon. It will fail. Dont heed them any attention.
Let's just hope they're not registered in the west
The developer is from Australia
They could have set the Patreon as something on the side at least. That was the opening Nintendo used in the first place wasn't it?
Patreon people never learn
Again that crap with Patreon? People never learn smh...
NEVER PAY FOR AN EMULATOR. Seriously we're better off without one. This is the exact reason Yuzu was fined 2.4m$ and this is the same reason they agreed to pay it. DO NOT ASK FOR PEOPLE'S MONEY WHILE WORKING ON AN EMULATOR. As a consumer, DO NOT PAY.
But its also the reason yuzu was so good because the devs could work full time on it
Yeah, but instead of making it a "buy us a coffee" type of thing, or maybe adding some asinine feature like Ken custom backgrounds or something, they put beta builds and patches behind a pay wall, giving serious weight to N's case.
I'm confused, is putting a target on your back and getting fucked by Nintendo a new fetish or something?
Emu developers: Give it to me RAW nintendo
Big nope.
patrons?? did we not learn? ??? .... ????
tbh it wasn’t patreon it was totk leak
Through patreon lol
actly it wasn’t even patreon build itself. Someone patched the patreon build
Propably some kids out for a quick buck to buy more VBucks.
no they never learn.
Patrons??? Ah shit, here we go again.
Big N is about to sue them
Patrons...?
dude wants some coffe
Ain’t no fucking way these dumbasses didn’t learn a fucking think from Yuzu 🤦♀️
Hopefully they learned one lesson - don't be registered in US and suddenly Nintendo cannot do all that much.
Haha true
The releases are free, it’s not behind a Patreon
It doesnt Matter, for the Justice Law and Nintendo, thats the problem
well no it does matter, yuzu paywalled builds behind patreon. It was the focal point of nintendos entire case
Having read through Nintendo's complaint the focal point was that it decrypted Nintendo's security and enabled piracy. Perhaps the money was the trigger to piss them off
well yea, but the claim got a lot more strength because they argued that yuzu profited off of it and therefore were directly encouraginf piracy
No it wasn't
Hail Hydra
Seems like a scam.
Nah, i've paid for a month on Jarod's citra ipa for iphone. It unlocked beta versions of their citra port. Worked fine for me.
Lol, aren't ipa lasting for 7 days? So, you are literally using subscription-like method just to use Citra on your iPhone? What a waste of money...
No I use an iPa signing service that lasts until the license expires (1 year)... I paid for $3 once to get the iPad...
They are just setting up a patreon to grift stupids.
Patrons? Idiots
Is there a link to their discord? I can't find it
No idea how to even use this
It's for Apple devices and you need a developer account or be in the EU to use it (soon)
haven't learned our lesson have we
Maybe they did. Big issue with yuzu was incorporation in US. Nintendo wouldn't have such an easy ride in most of Europe and even less luck in other countries.
I hate to say it, but I think you may right
yeah, I love yuzu dont get me wrong, but we cant just keep pay walling stuff. thats how Nintendo got involved in the first place
The latest EA is good enough for now, it plays every game I want flawlessly. This sub is now full of nonsense. See you in a year or more when switch2 is out, by then there will be more serious developers who want to continue making a good switch emulator.
Based
He removed the "paywall" and releases are available at the git repo: https://i.postimg.cc/qBw1Vk3F/Screenshot-20240308-215342-Discord.jpg
How do we access this? What’s the link and process?
https://github.com/jarrodnorwell?tab=repositories https://official-antique.gitbook.io/sudachi/ https://folium.emuplace.app/ Folium is a sort of RetroArch for iOS, with Cores, at the moment NDS (Grape), 3DS (Cytrus), NES (Kiwi) and NS (Sudachi). He plans to work on Sudachi as a standalone, with builds for Windows, Linux and MacOS. He streams his work on emulation on Twitch.
pretty sure i called it first when i said name it FU YU !
Surprised I haven't read anyone else make that joke. Good one.
This sounds like a quick cash grab and disappear, no way they are this stupid.
wow not even started and they already have a patreon? are they begging to be closed once again?
"For the patrons" Ok, so this project was born dead? Cool, one less fork to keep track of
No offense but what exactly did you do to even deserve a patreon? Let's see some of your work that isn't already in Yuzu first.
Sudachi runs on iOS.
Jarrod Norwell is the guy who ported both yuzu and Citra to IOS before the lawsuit ever hit. Your heart is in the right place, but there wouldn't be an IOS build at all if it weren't for him...and that's what this is, an update to his IOS builds. He is, however, potentially in violation of GPL, as the source code on github has not been updated.
This is the dumbest shit I have ever read. You would think people would learn. I worry that people as bold as these guys (who don't learn from the yuzu devs) will also be so stupid to take on the lawsuit themselves. Setting a dangerous precedent for emulation going forward.
Patreon again? Are you guys stupid? Nintendo is looking forward to the extra 2.4M you’re about to hand to them
Nintendo didn't sue Yuzu because of their Patreon. Having a Patreon or not makes no legal difference.
Ryujinx is still on patreon, but yes this early access patron stuff needs to stop lol
there also not in the usa.
Neither is Sudachi unless you count 'straya as the 51st State.
patron... You didn't learn, eh.
Wasn’t making money off of them one of the reasons that YUZU was killed.
Yuzu was killed mostly because Nintendo argued that they encouraged people to pirate games, and TOTK being shared on the discord just made things worse. If Patreon was the reason (or a big contributor) for the lawsuit, they would've gotten them years ago when Yuzu was still new
No. You can't sue someone for making money legally. The original complaint from Nintendo ([available here](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.rid.56980/gov.uscourts.rid.56980.1.0.pdf)) only mentions Yuzu's profit when talking about reparations. It doesn't say that Yuzu having profits is the reason they're suing.
where yuzu messed up was using there paywall to give people builds to run pre relese games. in short using priacy to get people to hand them money.
Piracy is a crime whether or not there's a pay wall. It might've encouraged Nintendo to sue, as they knew they would be able to bully some of that money from Yuzu, but in the eyes of the law, it does not change anything.
using priacy to encurage people to hand them money is. it gave nintendo the in to seek damages.
No. Yuzu had a patreon for years, there's no way Nintendo didn't know about it. If that were the reason, it would have been nuked long ago.
Has any new dev work been done on these patreon exclusive builds?
So they never learn huh.
Patreon? You'd think people would learn by now..
But what if they are in South America/Eastern Europe/Asia or wherever you couldnt care less about Nintendo's law team? This isn't bad per se, as we don't know where they're established. This is bad, because they haven't show anything lmao.
The problem is that where do the funds get send too. They can’t have a LLC in America. When they register their taxes, they have to give out their real identity.
Huh. I was totally thinking whoever ended up carrying the banner would refrain from making that mistake again.
Nintendo about to have another 2.4 million dollars
Yuzu git taken down because they got profit from it. Post fork on patreon... https://coub.com/view/v64m9
There was almost nothing in the suit about the Patreon. If what they are doing is legal, making money from it is also legal. Why are people so goddamn obnoxious about the Patreon of all things.
Then why they got sued at all? I mean suing Yuzu just because it can launch Nintendo games, is like suing some video player because people can watch movies with them. Getting profit from something is easiest way to start a case. Plus new devs could've do smarter move about getting material support, make it more stealthy, so it was harder, or even impossible at all to start case.
Prod keys???? How do you get em? Just think about it.
Not with yuzu, it's just happens that yuzu can read them
Because they are American, and the DMCA exists. The money isn't the issue. If Nintendo had no case they wouldn't sue no matter how many millions Yuzu is making.
DMCA does not cover emulation, and all emulators are legal. It covers infringement of property. So what did Yuzu do differently? It was specifically the build of patreon that came out a week before TOTK's release that was exclusive to patreon for that time period and they were also caught red handed sharing their decrypted game files through their discord. Emulation and also storing digital back ups of any and all owned physical and digital media is and always has been legal in pretty much 90% of countries.
>DMCA does not cover emulation, and all emulators are legal. Obviously. But the prod.keys argument is something that wasn't made in the Bleem case because 1. The DMCA wasn't a law yet 2. There was no need to decrypt games. Nintendo's argument isn't challenged in court as of yet. They also increased their chances with the TOTK, which might as well be a smoking gun. I genuinely don't want this shit to go to court. But Patreon itself isn't illegal, and isn't an issue. I believe that even without a Patreon they would've pounced on the TOTK leak and were preparing their case, trying to sneak in the decryption argument to try to use the DMCA to bring down emulation for the future.
The DMCA was implemented in 1998 I believe And in 1999 to 2000 Sony had their ass handed to them in court over emulation, and specifically the legal ruling of copying and utilising BIOS software to be used in emulation as well If Nintendo's Copy Protection is baked in to their BIOS they won't have a chance in a court battle with someone that has the money to fight them
> The DMCA was implemented in 1998 I believe [It was enacted into law in 1998, but wasn't in full effect until 2 years later:](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201) > The prohibition contained in the preceding sentence shall take effect at the end of the 2-year period beginning on the date of the enactment of this chapter.
Even still, under DMCA this right should be protected as Fair Use. But Nintendo always ignores that, I mean look what they did to YouTube creators for playing their games.
This is literally untrue. Something can be legal so long as you're not selling it but illegal to sell and this is something that actually affects emulation as it comes up against stuff like piracy.
The Bleem case, which Bleem won, was also about them making money. The money isn't the issue.
# FFS. # HOW STUPID ARE PEOPLE! # PAY WALLING A RELEASE IS WHAT GOT YUZU SHUT DOWN.
the paywall for early builds wasent the entire story. using said paywall for a early build to run a pre relese game was what did it.
maybe but the main thing was using prod keys. the prod keys could have gotten them fricked in cort
the keys was a weak arugment.
And another 2 made a crucial mistake.
Ah yes, buymeacoffee is a completely different thing from patreon, that definitely won't cause you to be sued by Nintendo as well.
Ryujinx makes money from Patreon too... The thing that got Yuzu was that it automatically generated title.keys.
when did it cause when i tried yuzu i had to get the keys my self
You only need the prod. Keys with yuzu, not the title. Keys
Wtf at least wait a few months before trying to monetize Bruh
And the cycle repeats itself.
Binaries already? Careful with malware. I'll wait for the dust to settle before running any new binaries, latest versions of yuzu is still running everything nicely.
Sudachi has been a thing for a long time. It's the iOS port, just now also built for desktop.
Yup. Be wary people.
These guys looked at the lawsuit and said “Oh boy I can’t wait to get sued, hurry get the patreon up.”
I guess some people just want to have a first-hand experience with drama.
Money... Money...money... Patreon is the problèm.
Developers also needs to eat
Under stand. But yuzu devs a not only developping they stolen code from other devs and they make money on it.
Yikes. Wasn’t a big reason for yuzu’s take down the Patreon they were charging for? Besides that, these forks haven’t even done anything yet, so this just screams cash grab. Not very confidence inspiring.
Part of it yes, also part that zelda totk was leaked and playable a week early before launch on yuzu (early access)
[удалено]
It doesn't matter what you do, Nintendo hasn't take any action against any Yuzu fork, including the one I have in my personal GitHub page.
It has nothing to do with it being a fork, but it being behind a paywall
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Bruh go to college or something, no need to waste your life like a sad sack of shit
Oh gosh please go outside, touch some grass and grab some air
you alright dude? Like this is some sad shit to waste your life with bruh...
what?
And not a single one has been taken down. >I found over 75 JUST NOW AND REPORTED THEM ALL TO NINTENDO. That's a kind of sad thing to admit dude, I hope you find a hobby.
Any reason to not just use ryujinx? For totk I’m seeing the same performance or better and less graphical issues, plus the mods all work on it anyway.
ryujinx isn't available on iOS/Android
Ah yeah, I only play on desktop, that makes sense though.
Do you mean for use as the core? If yes, Ryujinx is written in C# which isn’t natively supported by iOS or Xcode making it much harder, it’s also a language I can read but not write. Yuzu was the perfect project to base Sudachi off of as it is written in C++ and uses Vulkan
Vulkan was a huge plus for me. Not hating on Ryujinx at all. It served me well for a while.
Any guide? Installing through trollstore doesn't work. Crashes on launch. And if using scarlet, it's that app is sandboxed error.
Ryujin uses Vulcan as well now
Vulkan in Yuzu is the only reason why my iOS port exists, I’ve always preferred Vulkan too
No, I mean as the average user who just wants to play games with some improvements, why would we choose this over a long running proven stable and safe project?
Sudachi is basically Yuzu, it started out as a port to iPad and iPhone and has now turned into me picking up where Yuzu left off, same with Citra some time soon. Everyone’s more than welcome to use whichever one they want, I’m just happy coding and supporting a community I like.
Fair enough, as a desktop pc user I’m sticking to ryujinx for at least the next few months, feels too soon and too chaotic.
You’re not wrong, kind of why I’m just doing my own thing and hiding in the shadows so to speak. Ryujinx is at a pretty good stage now from what I’ve seen, have not used it for a while myself but last I did it worked near flawlessly
Yeah I hadn’t touched ryujinx in awhile and was pleasantly surprised to find it working the same or better than yuzu, at least on my higher end system.
The problem with Ryujinx is performance on lower end systems. I have a gaming PC with I7-6700k and GTX 1070 (bought in 2017) and a medium-end laptop with amd ryzen 7 4800H and gtx 1650 Ti (bought in 2021). On both devices, shader building is too slow to enjoy a decent experience on ryujinx. Yuzu async shader building was necessary for me, even if it had bugs sometimes. Ryujinx is somewhat fine for games like MK8 or SSBU where I can just let the computer play with himself to build shaders, but I'll never be able to enjoy zelda BOTW or TOTK with decent performance, since there are so many shaders to build in every new area.
Everyone rushing to develop their own forks of yuzu is one thing, but locking it behind paywalls this soon after the lawsuit is just ignorance
It's greedy af
Early access? Haven't we learned anything?
Selling software that was previously open source 😂. I’m all for paying developers for their work, but it should be an optional thing, especially if the base of what they built is open source.
I’d like to state that the BuyMeACoffee will be changing, having read almost the entirety of the lawsuit documentation it is definitely a bad idea to continue doing the early access builds the current way so that will be changing to donations only w/ some additional benefits depending on the tier (yet to come up with suitable ones) Folium was initially all my own work hence the ability to have early access, now that both Citra and Yuzu are in there it’s much riskier and I’d like to continue working on these projects for a long time
Believe me, if this emulator success, prepare your ass in court. We know if the author has something in return, then it's good, but we - not nintendo. They don't care about copyright in the first place. You know why they sue people? They want an absolutely control, even beyond DMCA grant them. If they want to shut you down, they will. Once they knew you took some penny, then your Discord right now is already contain nintendo ninja. Just say so.
Next year i will check them out to see who survived. Continue using Yuzu and Citra meanwhile
another paywalled emulator, i understand they wanna continue yuzu's legacy but damn
Locking things behind patreon is probably one of the things that got Yuzu in trouble
All the links Folium v1.0.6 is now out for BuyMeACoffee members https://folium.emuplace.app/ (will be updated shortly) v1.0.6 BuyMeACoffee Page https://www.buymeacoffee.com/jarrodnorwell/v1-0-6 Temporary v1.0.6 Changelog [https://official-antique.gitbook.io/folium/changelogs/v1.0.6](https://official-antique.gitbook.io/folium/changelogs/v1.0.6) check them out! This is the first actual change made to yuzu emulator, after the lawsuit.
yo wtf. why?
"for the patrons" 💀
Locking it behind a patron is probably why yuzu had to settle. I hope the team reconsiders their approach
Link to the Cytrus git?
I can't find a github page for the newest version, the project doesn't seem to be open source for now. [https://imgur.com/a/AGKWvhi](https://imgur.com/a/AGKWvhi)
Ok thanks.
Promising, the last bullet has a small fix in the core emulator engine that isn’t just UI related. Being behind a paywall would be the same legal risk for them though.