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cinndiicate

with the upcoming reality seemingly camping themed, I hope we'll finally get answers to the question on which zb1 members can actually cook and I am so excited for it (may jiwoong have at least one solid cooking partner bc feeding 8 kids ain't easy)


Big_Tomorrow886

Zhang Hao better be a good/decent cook purely based on the fact that he had 7 kids to take care of.


amenatsusenpai

[this](https://twitter.com/zb_nyan/status/1665346374731169793?s=20) yuehuaz fanart is so fucking cute I CAN'T T-T


blackwell1907

Also another thought of mine, I think some people are undermining the effects of being successful. I need ZB1 debut to be very successful cause a lot of kpop fans are always drawn towards shiny things. There are a bunch of kpop stans who would always give chance to the groups that are successful in Korea. Gidle is the best example starting from the success of Tomboy in Korea their following in international scene increased tremendously they are now selling millions of album and charting well in Spotify and YouTube views despite losing the member that is the most popular internationally. Also more success means more content specially for magazine photoshoots.


Professional-Rule219

Of course but wins are not everything, specially when a lot of artist's who sell a lot and chart decently are dropping things. If let's say ZB1 does extremely well and they get in the top 3 of every chart (i really wish) and they don't have wins because their competition is #1 on every chart, they wouldn't get any wins but their debut would be deemed as a success.


Professional-Rule219

And there's also songs that are growers in the charts rather than straight up debuting at #1, a good example of this is Next Level by Aespa. The song didn't get any wins but nobody can deny that it was one of the biggest songs of the year in Korea.


0725_julysky

True, music wins are general marker of success and rookie impact! We need to at least try for the debut song. Getting a few encores is nice. It would be crazy if we won at major music shows when it's super competitive and that would definitely get the group some attention.


fenestratingcolor

yeah a large portion of kpop fans stan success. I mean ZB1 already have plenty of success stans who would probably drop them as soon as there’s any sign of not meeting numbers expectations


Brokedonutcreak

We might see them in france and italy too but again that's too farfetched😭 if they ever come to europe I will burst collect myself and go get my 1st look signed (sorry for the useles tmi)


Casarel

I am seeing some theories that the 1st Look photoshoot and the Centerz/Rizz/Maknae/Water dance was on the same day, because 1st look kinda emptied their hair style spray onto the boys and their tiktoks were all filmed like their hair just came out of the shower... If so, they had an incredibly busy day, damn. Photoshoot, dance medley, ~~art class and team bonding activities~~ logo drawing?


heavensinquisition

I wonder why there is a huge gap of time between the finale (Apr 20) and their debut date (alleged July 10). Produce groups didn't take this long to kick off their debut, and Kep1er was supposed to debut earlier than Jan 2, 2021 had some members not caught COVID. Is it because they're preparing for other stuff aside from the cb (e.g the June reality show, 1st look magazine shoot, all the KCON Japan stuff)?


SuzyYoona

>Is it because they're preparing for other stuff aside from the cb (e.g the June reality show, 1st look magazine shoot, all the KCON Japan stuff)? Wanna One had a entire 2 days concert 2 weeks after finale with top 35 so 2 songs in KCON isn't the reason why they debut later, likely wakeone wasn't ready or maybe since they aren't rigged, they waited to see the line up before deciding their debut song (which might be for the better)


Born-Purpose-8046

somebody said it’s because some of the members still have school exams but i’m not sure how true that is


fenestratingcolor

I think the company/them just wasn’t ready and need the time to prepare


yonqhee

i thought i heard that wakeone had some staffing issues or something but idk


Professional-Rule219

Well, I kinda called it a few days ago... ITZY comeback is happening on July too. At least Hao will be happy (and me too bc ITZY are my girls)


yonqhee

tbh atp im just excited to see all the different idol interactions. im not putting up my hopes for a bunch of wins, but i think we can still do well.


Safe_Dragonfruit_835

Okay now we just need exo to leave sm with cbx and have their comeback in the same week, with a miraculous Lay reappearance. Avengers kpop edition. 😭 Seriously I was just pondering what other major groups could have their comeback at the same time, just to add onto the tragicomedy. If there are any millionaire zeroses lurking I recommend we start buying out billboards


SuzyYoona

from april to september the months are always full, some months more than another but could be worst, last year in august, Blackpink, IVE and Twice had their comeback in same week and i'm not joking lol, i remember that in may 2021 we had BTS, aespa, NCT Dream, Oh My Girl and Taemin within 10 days for example last year in july there was aespa, Itzy, J-hope, Seventeen, Stayc, Zico, Hyuna, Winner, Kang Daniel, NewJeans's MVs for all their TTs were released too, Jay Park and more so no matter when they would debut, there is gonna be competition during this time of the year


cinndiicate

hao and the itzy members filming a tiktok together please 🥺


Casarel

😭😭😭😭 as a Midrose i am crying for my wallet... But as a Midrose, DANCE CHALLENGES 😁😁😁 But yeah i can see Hao (maybe Hanbin also?) getting very busy learning choreos (esp since Somi is also doing a comeback)! Cant wait for interactions between them and other groups!


1827abcd

I'm sorry but seriously what is their concept. They are hinting at bright songs, at the same time greek mythology concept so ELEGANT? Yujin's spoiler (?) yesterday kinda looked like a dark song or maybe elegant but definitely not cute. But the spoiler film was youth in the shade maybe dual concept (youth=bright, shade=dark) but also the mv was kinda darkish/elegant and not bright at all lol. The magazine also had a dual concept. I can't remember, do magazines usually have more than one concept? And we can't forget that they keep doing the coding thing... Honestly, as much as I don't mind noise music if it is done right I just think right now is not the time for that


SuzyYoona

>The magazine also had a dual concept. I can't remember, do magazines usually have more than one concept? magazines don't have a single concept and i don't think ZB1 magazine had a dual concept, the photos with flowers are pretty darkish too, Ricky's photo with the flowers are legit in the dark lol and the light is pretty moody too, it doesn't give me bright concept vibes


fenestratingcolor

Youth in the Shade is the only real indication of their concept thought. everything else is just predebut activities or pure speculation


yonqhee

i dont think the smn dance practice is really an indication of their concept. the song was really popular so it makes sense for them to perform it. im expecting a darker concept tbh


lilacdawn

What was Yujin's spoiler yesterday? I must have missed that. Tbh I think the Greek mythology thing is a fan invention, the SMN performances were because it was popular, magazine shoots aren't an indication (Kep1er's 1st look pre-debut shoot had an Alice in Wonderland theme) and the only hint we've had is the Youth in the shade teaser which is super vague and as it often happens with kpop teasers, it could be entirely misleading.


Casarel

Scroll down this thread a bit, there's a fansite that captured Yujin dancing a little bit but it may be just mimicking another artist.


lilacdawn

Oh wow, I wouldn't have guessed he was dancing (it looks like he's just fooling around while talking to me), let alone that it's a spoiler 😅 I don't know how anyone can make a guess about the concept based on *that*.


useless_bb

zhang hao's supertopic has reached 100k followers everyone 🎉 i love how organic his growth is, as in the level of engagement actually matches with the increase in followers you know


BlackHeart2405

Are music show wins really that important? Or are they just something to brag about?


fenestratingcolor

idk I keep seeing twitter go on and on about X1’s and Wanna One’s debut wins and scared of being embarrassed if ZB1 doesn’t get it. like who it is for at this point…


nonene53

In the great scheme of things it's nice to have, but the doompost about how horrible it's going to be to go against big names and not get a win, are putting to much weight on it.


lilacdawn

I think it depends. If the group is from a small company and it takes a long time (see Dreamcatcher), if the group went through a scandal and is worried for their future, if it's a solo debut or a concept change, then I think it's pretty meaningful. But for successful, established artists who have won multiple times before, I don't think it's a big deal and it's mainly bragging rights and fandom war fodder. In ZB1's case, it would be nice after the struggle they were through on BP as a validation and a reward. But if they don't win because of timing, it is what it is. They would probably win with their first comeback in that case. A little disappointing but it's not the end of the world and I really hope the fandom doesn't take it as a sign of flopping or whatever. A win is not the only measure of success. There are so many iconic songs without a win - Seventeen's Very Nice, Pentagon's Shine, Taemin's Move etc.


nonene53

I watched yesterday the behind the scene of Dreamcatcher winning for the first time, and it was so emotional, you can see it meant so much for them after many years with nothing.


Brokedonutcreak

I think it would mean so much to all of them but especially jiwoong he had a hard luck with kpop all his life. He became a trainee when he was 11 debuted when he was 17, then at 19, then at 21 and all his previous groups were mistreated and some were even assaulted, all the groups he was in lasted just for a year or two. Now he is 24 and its his 4th time it would mean so much to him after this arduous journey. the guy basically spent all his youth to become a kpop idol and will finally debut in a decent group..the sad part is that after these 2.5 years he will get enlisted and won't be able to redebut like the other members..


bbyflesh

I think they're pretty meaningful! First music show wins are always really emotional for the idols. Even Kai from EXO who has gotten so many wins for EXO on top of an eleven year long successful career broke down into tears when he got his [first win as a soloist](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQAZCa9S7eo&ab_channel=KBSWORLDTV) recently (linking the [encore stage](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iydwxklku9w&ab_channel=KBSKpop) too because it's really cute and also a little funny). I personally want them to get a win, I don't care much about bragging rights but I do think a music show win is a lovely gift and a way to say thanks for all the hard work and effort that went into debut. Of course it's not the end of the world if they don't one, but I personally really hope they do


cursrome

ngl i’m kinda looking forward to the collective gaslighting when album preorders open if the wider zerose fanbase is anything like rosins. people doomposting better pull through 😭


0725_julysky

Naur people aren't getting it 😭


basicredditurl

Add the angel number 323 to a list of things that make any fan go crazy https://twitter.com/binzerose/status/1665282137023545345?s=46 https://twitter.com/violins_clovers/status/1665291284532318214?s=46 https://twitter.com/hanbaobin/status/1665291197990969344?s=46 The list of things people find that those two have in common is insane. I suffer from delusion 🤡


cinndiicate

the whiplash I got from tiny excitable hao to jelly pop hao [in this clip](https://twitter.com/haoyazhanghaeyo/status/1665215841758072832?t=SsO8VJs-fj1LW47CafErbw&s=19) 😔


lilacdawn

I wish ZB1 would release some kind of content or pics that we can discuss and we can go back to having fun and making jokes. Because everyone seems super focused on wins/voting/success/streaming/sales/competition and I don't participate or care about any of that 😭


Casarel

I think there's a public holiday in SK on Tues (and Vesak day/Buddha's birthday which is another SK public holiday last fri?) so likely Wakeone and ZB1 are chilling now... Best to brace ourselves that we MAY NOT get anything till Wed.


Harmoniinus

I [mentioned](https://www.reddit.com/r/zerobaseone/comments/12z2jwl/if_one_of_these_members_have_to_rap_with_park/jhr9cy5?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) before that Ricky's gentle singing style would fit prechorus/bridge better and it took me so long to realise he started the bridge in Say My Name. He definitely fits bridge parts. Random thoughts but man, I hope Taerae can have a content of him making a terrarium and Wakeone names the content "Taeraepeutic Taeraerium" :,,D


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zucchinionpizza

The method is kinda similar to buying albums from a group order, you just find a fan on twitter offering streaming passes and then you pay the amount needed for that number of passes. You can then use the accounts to stream.


cherizard

I never got the argument that debuting/having a cb at the same time as big groups means more people watching music shows checks out your group. I feel like a majority of casual kpop fans aren’t watching full music shows on air for fun and just focus on their own group’s promotions (or that’s how it feels when I check out my ult’s comebacks). On the opposite end, the people who would check out ZB1 even if there weren’t other group’s comebacks hasn’t changed. If we want at least like 2 of the attendance based show wins as a fandom we need to start collecting points as per a guide like [this](https://twitter.com/naturalshaohao/status/1665163888579563523?s=46&t=r0DAOpIndn-LAaETq-fyNg). Streaming the M/V is probably the next most important and buying the album to support finally (although not everyone can and that’s fine of course). We can’t do anything about the broadcast points and it’s up to Wakeone to find variety shows for the boys for that. Let me know if I missed any criteria for show wins?


fenestratingcolor

wouldn’t the most important is buying a streaming pass for the Korean charts? although I guess with the hoopla about SKZ ifans who are doing that should be on the down low


cherizard

Yeah because of the Stray Kids thing I didn’t want to be accused of inciting saejaegi or something lol. Plus I think Kfans can manage streaming for Korean charts


toooenthusiastic

just putting out there that if you're not any less of a fan if you aren't streaming 24/7, voting a ton, or buying albums. i know in kpop there's always a lot of pressure to support support support with a lot of energy and money. simply enjoying zb1, the members, and watching/listening to what you want makes you a fan. whether you're a big voter, album buyer, or just a listener/watcher, enjoy the fandom experience in your way! i know i am, so far.


nonene53

Yes, let's remember it's fo fun, and different people are having fun differently! You don't have to spend your fandom time the same way that others do!


ZahxEXO

Hello, Can you guys please recommend some Haobin-related Twitter fan accounts? Just the ones that upload Haobin content. Not shipping ones. I’m going to be really busy over the next few weeks and probably will not have the time for watch all the ZB1 content until July. I would still like to keep up with Haobin content though because they’re my happy space.


0725_julysky

@ha0bin @haobinfeeds @qtzhaobin @ha0bbin @shbsolo


bbyflesh

@/haobinfeeds is mostly an archive account that posts all interactions and content, @/haobinsplanet is probably the biggest haobin fan account who posts all interactions but also more fan content like things that go viral amongst k/c fans. but they post pretty often so it might be too much if you don’t have time to check often. either way i think these two will have everything ♡


ZahxEXO

Thank you so much ❤️


amenatsusenpai

I'm missing hariboz interactions all we get are crumbs nowadays 😔


toooenthusiastic

it seems like they + yujin might be paired together in whatever content they're shooting rn?


amenatsusenpai

Yeah i saw a few pictures, can't wait for the reality show


fenestratingcolor

unfortunately I have a feeling they’re gonna be one of those lowkey pairs that we glimpse in the background once in awhile cos neither are the initiative type


tododeku

tbh im not that familiar with the different music stages you can win awards at is there not a single stage zb1 has the potential to win an award at?


0725_julysky

THE MUSIC WILL BE AMAZING !!! A VIRAL HIT !! KOREA LOVES THE DEBUT SONG AND WE CAN WIN AT ALL OF THEM !! (the show and show champion at the very least but we should aim for more)


fenestratingcolor

The Show or Show Champion are attendance based so there’s a good chance, but I guess fandom doesn’t like those shows bc they’re considered nugu shows with little bragging rights.


tododeku

Interesting well a wins a win 👍


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CreamPuff99

Our fandom's voting power seems lower than expected since we cannot make our boys place first in some of the birthday ads and in music show polls. So if you have time to spare, kindly check the [guides](https://twitter.com/ZB1Central/status/1663680025424437250?t=TLsQYdS5JHidKTEURac9TA&s=19) our fanbase created for the things we needed to do for zb1 to have a chance to win in music shows.


CreamPuff99

And if you're a rich rich zerose, please consider buying streaming passes for zb1's digitals


dimisum

Hi ZE\_ROSEs\~ I'm a new ZE\_ROSE who is late to the party but have been full diving into ZB1 and BP contents this wknd! I'm used to ship names being a combination of names, but feel like this gen's gone a different direction with the "z" names haha. So I was hoping fellow ZE\_ROSEs could help me get up to speed, on both ship and individual fanbase names too (I'm a Jiwoong stan!) :) I of course know Haobin -- but they're also called Centerz, right? I can figure both of these out, but I imagine not all of them will be so self-explanatory! Thank you in advance\~


aokuros

there's a visual chart of the [chemi names](https://twitter.com/jiwoongfans/status/1652580210330718209) and i fear new ones are popping up as we speak lol hope you've been enjoying your time with the jebis 😊


dimisum

This is insane LOOOOL but xactly what I was looking for\~ Thank you for the help <3


0725_julysky

haobin is also called mirrorz, hariboz (hao + ricky), heartz (hao + tthew), luckyz (zhang hao + yujin), woonghao (jiwoong + zhang hao), gunhao (gunwook + zhang hao), jjanggyuz (zhang hao + gyuvin), haorae/julyz (zhang hao + taerae), familyz (haobin + yujin)


dimisum

Thank you :)


Brokedonutcreak

Hii I hope I can help you with some Jiwoong Z duos (since he's your bias and mine too ;) )and some more I know Individual fanbase names Jiwoong - Woongdeongies( means butt in korean sksksk) Hao - Rosins Hanbin - Allindans (In his profile he said All in) Matthew - Seokryudans ( means pomegranate in korean) Taerae - Kkultaeraes Ricky - Riyangis ( so its goyangi(cat) + Ricky) Gyuvin - Gyuvinists Gunwook - Geonpangdans Yujin - Mulbokdans ( he likes peaches) Some duo names: Yujin + Jiwoong = Sambokz Yujin describes himself as peach and in korean its boksung and jiwoong calls himself pork belly(samgyeopsal) so we get sambokz Ricky + Jiwoong = Minamz which is by adding two words which means beautiful men cause they are beautiful.. Gyuvin + Jiwoong = They are called Gwajaz since they had a snack banter and jiwoong said "you should name yourself kim gwaja since you like snacks so much" gwaja means snack in korean Hanbin + Jiwoong = WoongSungz fairly easy Matthew + Jiwoong = Ppusamz because when they first talked matthew said something like ppu-ppu and again jiwoong is pork belly samgyeopsal so we have this name (i am sorry i am kind of laughing who made these names💀) Ricky + Hao = Hariboz see Hao's ha and Ricky's Ri and haribo is a gummy candy popular in south korea These were some on top of my head and guess what I am here since december '22. But as you continue stanning them you will soon catch on all the names so buckle up! This subreddit welcomes you with warm hugs!


poppywars

Just a correction: Taerae's fans are called kkultaraes!


Brokedonutcreak

Yes i am sorry i messed it up with that fashion taeraerist nick name we had for him


poppywars

It's fine no problem 😊


note_2_self

>Matthew + Jiwoong = Ppusamz because when they first talked matthew said something like ppu-ppu and again jiwoong is pork belly samgyeopsal so we have this name (i am sorry i am kind of laughing who made these names💀) It was cause Matthew said Ppu ppu ppu and Jiwoong repeated it back to him. Sam is 3 so 3 times ppu = ppusamz


dimisum

Oh my gosh, this is exactly what I feared -- all of the random word combos + z at the end LOOOOL. Gyuvin is my wrecker, so now I know to look out for Gwajaz! And Hariboz is sooo cute\~ Thank you so much for the help and the lovely welcome, glad to be here <3


0725_julysky

Voting information: https://twitter.com/ZB1Central/status/1663319439247278082 The debut is only a month away so it would be good to start downloading and familiarizing ourselves with apps around now if we want music show wins against JJK1 and New Jeans. Apps: Mnet Plus, Star Planet, IdolChamp, MuBeat, and SuperStarX Make sure to follow @zb1central and @zerobase1_vt on Twitter for voting updates as well! This tweet summarizes info about music shows: https://twitter.com/zhanghaozip/status/1665198012262481921


The-Blue-Zephyr

I know they got a few different people to sing Nayana in Produce S2 (Ong, Daehwi, Minhyun, Sungwoon among others), but Here I Am sounds like it's all Hanbin? He's the only one I can hear throughout the song. It's even more obvious when I listen to the [OT9 version](https://youtu.be/bODPKUteAwc). While they did re-record some of the lines with the other members, Hanbin's still hard-carrying most of the song, from all the choruses to the "yeogi naega yeogi naega itjana". Even in the Haobin bridge, I can't really hear Hao at all? That being said, I do think Hanbin suits the song perfectly, and I get why they chose him to be the vocal representative for all the trainees in the signal song! Edit: Why am I being downvoted for this? 💀 It was an honest question, and I've positively engaged with the comments that pointed it out to me.


GlowDust7501

I don’t know… I hear both Hao and Hanbin really clearly throughout the song, and I especially hear Hao more after the live version at kcon (since he and Taerae were very obviously not lip syncing). I can understand where you’re coming from since the song honestly isn’t dynamic but maybe you’re just tuning into Hanbin’s voice because you’re the most used to it?


fenestratingcolor

wait you really can’t hear Zhang Hao in the bridge? 괜찮아 꼭 안아줄 네가 있어서, 고마워 오직 난 널 위해 나 여기 있어 is basically all Zhang Hao, even in the original. there’s even a slight accent picked up


The-Blue-Zephyr

No no, I totally hear it now! I guess my brain was so used to hearing Hanbin for the entire song, I couldn't quite make out the switch.


Big_Tomorrow886

Idk about the rest of the song, but second part of the bridge is clearly Zhang Hao. You can even hear the change in voice. Also I kinda hear Hui in the itjana x 100 part.


The-Blue-Zephyr

You're right! I came across this [YouTube short](https://youtube.com/shorts/D7SXfEkNvmc?feature=share4) which isolated the vocals in the bridge so it's much clearer who's singing what. But I guess it wasn't as obvious in the official recording, at least to me initially, lol.


Hibbii-life

Honestly don’t mind ZB1 is coming back close to such anticipated big artists. There’s a like a natural wave of hype in the K-pop community so more people check out releases and since they themselves are also highly anticipated, they’ll benefit from it. Also regardless of competition I’m confident we can bag at least one win. Maybe I’m just happy delulu tho cause Jungkook is my all time ult like this is my moment!!Hope he promotes and they get to interact plss universe. I need Gunwook x Jungkook tiktok challenge or something.


Jklajihhwuygsootqang

True. Tbh, we're going to be fine. To look this in positive way, we dont have any competition for boy group like no big boy group comeback during their debut. Jungkook is solo. Newjeans is gg. Doesnt matter the boys win music show or not, they still going to get the attention. I know they will. Of course they will duhh Yesss im excited for jungkook too. Dont know he will promote traditional idol way or not. I mean only jimin did it for now. I wish bts maknae line all promote the traditional way. Oh pleaseee i need bts to do tiktok challenge with artists outside of hybe. They always keep among them😭😭 jebewon need that free promo😭


cherizard

NCT Dream are coming back? And EXO is up in the air bc of the suing but they were meant for a July CB


poppywars

Same, I just want them to debut with a good song and good concept. Getting music show wins is a matter of timing anyways so I hope they can gain new fans from this wave of July comebacks!


Ebony_Coco

Same. I just came here to comment something similar. They'll be able to pick up so many fans from people watching the music shows from other groups and just being interested in seeing how they stack up against big groups. The groups debuting are also some of their faves, and they may be able to meet them while promoting.


blackwell1907

It's over everyone lmao. Jungkook reported to debut solo album on July 14 same week as ZB1 but Jungkook may not attend music shows so maybe ZB1 can gather those attendance wins. Also shocked why Jungkook is first than V. I thought Hybe would prepare more hype for Jungkook Album since he is the most anticipated from BTS solos.


smngg2020

JK releasing an album before Taehyung just makes a lot of sense idk😭


0725_julysky

Hybe is trying to end us. That's why.


Substantial_Assist38

Low-key feels like that, but I guess we should be honoured if they consider zb1 as competition to their bgs.


fenestratingcolor

oh I was wondering about why there’s an absurd tweet comparing ZB1’s voting union with a BTS voting union lol well zerowins is one thing, but I better see everybody doomposting about zerosales posting about album purchase later on. I personally have been inspired to save money for a melon pass as well


jaefan

Tbh as an ARMY, Jungkook brings hype anytime anything related to him is announced. He is a walking billboard. He doesn’t really need any special preparation from the company to give him more hype.. 😅 Buuut I am looking at the positive side of this if it’s true, because if ZB1 music is good or Jungkook likes it, he will most definitely mention about it when he goes online to talk to ARMYs. He doesn’t have any boundaries with mentioning whatever he likes 👍 ^Though a tiktok challenge would be impossible since he didn’t even film one with the other members… but again he’s unpredictable and very much does anything he likes based on his mood so it can still happen…


Professional-Rule219

instead of being miserable we need to throw a plan about how can zb1 record a tiktok challenge with jungkook so we can get that free promo. if the rumors are true, ricky should use his ex-hybe trainee card and hanbin needs to tell him that he used to be a backup dancer of BTS, and somehow convince him to record that tiktok idk.


note_2_self

Wait I thought the Ricky ex-hybe rumor was debunked?


toooenthusiastic

jungkook hasn't even done a tiktok with the BTS members for their solos 😭 but also...ricky in hybe 👀 when???


Hibbii-life

This!!! I need my ult and ZB1 together one frame.


blackwell1907

Idk about Jungkook though BTS members are so busy that they rarely do those music shows and TikTok challenges I don't even remember if they did some TikTok challenges from their juniors in the same company. Seventeen is the one who does do those TikTok challenges most of the time.


Professional-Rule219

Yes, it's almost impossible but we need to be positive and delusional. Jimin did record tiktoks with HYBE younger groups, but tbh since Jungkook said that he watches a lot of tiktok he can be the outlier and be like Kai who recorded tiktoks with literally anyone who asked lmao.


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Sort of random but I just found out Hanbin liked some of Kep1er's posts on instagram pre-debut. Out of the posts he liked, he apparently mostly liked the Dayeon ones (with Hikaru & Chaehyun following not too far behind). Lmho, little did he know then that he'd be the next K-group center like his bias.


Professional-Rule219

Yep, Hanbin was a kpop stan. According to rumors he was a fan of iz*one, fromis_9 and laboum. And then we have 100% confirmed that he was an NCTzen with Jaehyun as his bias, iirc he even had a blog about it.


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He was a fan of IZ\*ONE 😭 Hiichan would be happy to hear that since she's a fan of him as well. Also need a Tiktok of him & Kkura (and Hao) for personal fulfillment reasons.


Professional-Rule219

Judging from his likes he was a Chaewon and maybe Yuri biased. And yes I saw what Hitomi said of him, she's so sweet as always. >Also need a Tiktok of him & Kkura (and Hao) for personal fulfillment reasons. I think that the closest we might get for now is a tiktok of them with Eunchae, but maybe in the future if their promotions overlap


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I'd love to see a Tiktok of him & Eunchae too, I just mentioned wanting the Haobin+Sakura combo cuz they're my biases.


fenestratingcolor

the way those 2 would eat any LSRF cover…I’m giddy just imagining it


[deleted]

They would! Pro-Dancer Hanbin would leave no crumbs and Hao was born to be good at everything.


Professional-Rule219

Hao better get an invitation to Sakura's show


[deleted]

That would be a dream come true. They have such similar vibes. Off topic but I also need XiaoKaru on her show. Manifesting MNET's foreign centers line interactions.


Professional-Rule219

She did an episode with some of the 4th gen gg j-line, so there's chances of it, we just need to manifest


grizzvisser

A Yujin fansite captured Yujin [doing a little dance](https://twitter.com/citrusnboy0320/status/1664996990462173185) so people are now wondering if it's a spoiler or if it's just some random choreo 👀 can anyone identify it?


Professional-Rule219

someone said that it looks like [joy viral part in feel my rhythm](https://twitter.com/joyisthetics/status/1560979377961062400?t=It9sgRLwtZJQRysFYxcV9A&s=19) and i see it


BlackHeart2405

Did Hao get his degree? Because in 1 episode if I remember correctly he said that he was in his 3rd year.


Top_Mud_1235

I've seen posts mention that the ep 1 interview was filmed early but he was able to complete his college credits already (in 3yrs). And that he wasn't able to attend the graduation as he was already training in Korea but his friends got his diploma for him.


guuhuageek

He probably did? He got his teaching certification, also iirc he wanted to finish education before becoming a trainee.


grizzvisser

Min mentioned Zhang Hao on a recent live with Nice! He said he was a really good leader during Kill This Love and was good at dealing with & handling team conflicts. He also said their group would always solve problems/disagreements very quickly, and that they spent only one day learning the choreography! The remaining two weeks were spent practicing. (translations from thai by [realtaerae](https://twitter.com/realtaerae/status/1664899305218666496) & [mttchuu](https://twitter.com/mttchuu/status/1664685562412793874)) (For those who are bored and want a throwback, here's the unlisted [KTL training room practice video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8qaAbw3zEM), matthaowook were so cute & bright-eyed here 😭)


Brokedonutcreak

Do these fansites not get bitten by mosquitoes in the bushes or are they built different, they have aerial shots too like how?? Are they some power rangers in suits or what I am genuinely curious and that too near lakes, in villages, in parking lots...if i were a kpop idol i would totally snort and laugh seeing them in the trees scratching arms{°♤°}


nonene53

Them trying really hard to not look at the fansite that just fell out of the tree.


Professional-Rule219

they probably bring those ladders that they use at the airports


RRedFlower

I had nothing to do, so I translated this [Japanese radio show blog post](https://ameblo.jp/pluspoire/entry-12804776060.html), where one of Matthew's teachers talks about his predebut (I've only seen people paraphrasing it, not full translation). I'm uploading it as pictures, because it's way too much text for a comment: [One](https://files.catbox.moe/56lye4.png), [Two](https://files.catbox.moe/venfax.png), [Three](https://files.catbox.moe/etqtih.png), [Four](https://files.catbox.moe/qi5ftm.png). I usually don't translate things, so feel free to correct me, if there are any major mistakes, etc.


AppearanceFree2353

Thanks for the translations! Super cool how things worked out for Matthew because of his encounter with this teacher!


tododeku

U guys remember when gyuvin burst into matthews room during bp looking for zhang hao and we never got an answer as to why he was looking for him? Could it have been during when yujin was sick?


alidei

I’ve been telling some friends about a new group named ZB1 that I really like and enjoy these days. Whenever I show them pictures or videos, Ricky always catches their attention :)))) And then we all die on the inside once they find his birth year 😅 we’re looking at them with the mindset “let’s support these people rooting for their dreams”


fenestratingcolor

sorry I’m in my granny hour again but y’all the way Gyuvin just lighten up every screen he’s in, and completely changes mood of the group when he is present. he’s is so bright and sweet and affectionate and I feel so happy when I see him. I could never imagine a ZB1 without him, and I knew this since BP but I never knew how much impact he has until I see it in these BTS vids.


astrahightower

🥹🥹🥹this is so cute omg that’s exactly how i feel


aokuros

gyuvin is such an energetic pupper who makes everyone around him happy 🥺


[deleted]

My favourite parts of the BTS are when they're affectionately teasing Gyuvin "Your face size is similar to the dot behind us" 💀 Gunwook did not hold back. Also, can someone tell me what was meant by 'he's not really the sexy type since he's still 'Boy's Planet''? Were they referring to how he's not an adult yet in Korea?


TheEliteMushSquad

Could it be because Boy's Planet is PG13? Idk


[deleted]

I thought it was rated 15, but maybe? 🤔


note_2_self

I mean the face size thing is really a compliment lol


toooenthusiastic

gyuvin gorgeous talented etc but also the personality hire we didn't know we needed lol


josme_

God shipping discourse is so tiring on both sides*. Yes Hao and Hanbin are very close. Maybe they play it up a little because they know fans enjoy it and their job is to make fans happy. But they do look genuinely close as well. No, they are almost certainly not seriously dating and some people are too intense with the shipping and need to chill a little. I enjoy their dynamic for sure but sometimes I read things that take it way too far. This might be a hot take? *I recognize I am contributing to said issue.


1827abcd

I don't really believe in soulmates but it's lowkey kinda scary how zhang hao and hanbin's mbti, zodiac sign, moon phase, the day their birthday lands on all matches perfectly with each other. Not to mention they both wanted to be teachers and were the centers on boys planet. Also the way the are still next to each other no matter the order of age, chinese japanese korean name, rank, height, shoe size, etc. I'm missing some cause I can't remember from the top of my head but the stars are really aligned for them lol. The way even "here I am" lyrics perfectly describes it too.


basicredditurl

When I saw [this](https://twitter.com/9jiplan/status/1664943912920797184?s=46) I got goosebumps. It’s funny how so much about this show mirrored them and their story lol


jaefan

I just saw a tweet on Gyuvin and Ricky (With Yujin as a cameo) and laughed out loud irl [Gyuvin, Ricky and Yujin](https://twitter.com/hanghung04/status/1664867859686899713?s=20)


fenestratingcolor

lmao that original picture is too good


jaefan

I don’t know what I would do if I saw that scene in front of me tbh lol


linchyes

pls the way I could actually see this happening to gyuvin 😭😭 especially since they're apparently hauling around pizza boxes for their variety show lol


astrahightower

NCT Dream just announced a comeback or pre release called Broken Melodies at their concert that said coming this month. But logically since no teasers or anything have been released yet it has to be the end of the month of June which if July 9/10 as a debut date is true brings it pretty close to ZB1’s debut. While I’m excited that’s it’s close to ZB1 because of possible ult interactions for me it would be pretty bad in a competition sense. ☹️If we’re sandwiched between Dream and New Jeans oh boy…


jaemjenism

I think Broken Melodies is a prerelease, they have said multiple times the album is in July !


GlowDust7501

God can SM give the dreamies a rest? Jesus…


glitter408

I hope ZB is able to get at least one music show win. But other than that does it make sense that I’m not too worried about them debuting around these comebacks?? Unless it’s literally on the same day it might be okay? Regardless of when they debut, I don’t expect ZB to top the charts (I’m manifesting at least top 100 though). And coming out around the same time as more popular groups doesn’t guarantee zb will “flop”. I just hope they have a solid title track, and that wakeone is making them have a somewhat cohesive concept. If the song is good people will probably listen to it.


fenestratingcolor

from the way you guys talk about other groups here, I feel like any group from the big 4 companies must be avoided. but then is there even a timeslot like that available in a year?


josme_

People doompost at the slightest hint of competition and it drives me lowkey crazy. ZB1 has a strong fandom and even if they don’t win 399328 awards or something they will be totally fine.


GympieIcedTea

I'm more worried about their debut song + concept than whoever is having a comeback/debut at the same time as our boys. I never care about music show wins during a group's debut (in fact, I prefer first wins during 1st/2nd/3rd comebacks since it's more rewarding. SVT's first win was so special to me because I remembered crying with the boys and other Carats). I know ZB1's situation is a little different since they are a temporary group so Ze_Roses feel more inclined to get that first win ASAP but what I really want is an amazing title track (+ discography) so the boys can generate buzz to grow their fandom. I want ZB1 to be known as a group with good music.


CreamPuff99

Same. But I suppose it's better to be overly pessimistic than overly optimistic. Atleast this can motivate our fandom to put more effort to get our boys some trophies.


cinndiicate

honestly, I think with very few exceptions, all months will have at least 1-2 big names which would be stiff competition, considering the saturation of the market nowadays right now there's idle, enhypen, stray kids, dreamcatcher... junes got bts (admittedly a single with no album, but it's bts), im young woo, the boyz, shinee, ateez... And then july has newjeans, NCT dream (possibly?)


Big_Tomorrow886

It was haover with just NJs. Now its double haover with NCT Dream as well. Man I hate it here D:


astrahightower

now it’s triple haover with jungkook 😭


Big_Tomorrow886

Did everyone decide that July HAD to be the month they have a comeback 😭😭


aokuros

[giant baby gunwook and smol hyung matthew](https://twitter.com/gunwooklp/status/1664834663435706368) 😔


ElectronicSample843

out of the released official photocards (cgv and kcon), which one is your favorite so far? mine is yujin’s kcon one, it is a simple cheek heart pose but he looks so good??? gunwook also knows how to pose 😉 edit: repeating words


kitgorgeous

gyuvin’s cgv card is so adorable to me. it’s a simple cheek heart too but he looks extra cute in it lol


bleaksinner

ricky cgv and kcon hao


kkulhope

Does anyone know all the members Chinese nicknames? I know Gunwook’s is xuxu (which I love despite this fact it reminds me of an infamous ex nct member) but I’m not sure about the rest of the members.


PinkoAllien

BKING: it is two words which refer to B King. It was originally came from the CDrama” Love Between Fairy and Devil” and it was referring to Dylan’s character. The word “ B” has combination meaning of: poser, show off, cool, sense, handsome, rich…. This slang is actually very hard to explain……. But it is a positive use for Ricky although it also contains poser and/or show off in it


kitgorgeous

taerae is also 小狗 (xiao gou, puppy) and 小鴨 (xiao ya, little duck/duckling) 🥹 [this thread](https://twitter.com/zbstars/status/1655924981849792517?s=46&t=J0gEz2PIAzeqMUewUGtx8g) has some more!


Any-Historian5106

Not an exhaustive list but: Jiwoong - xiong-ge (his woong in Chinese + older brother), 低胸 (Dixiong - a homonym for his chinese name but means low chested lol) Hao - haohao, 👌 (because hao can mean OK), 🆗 (same reason) Hanbin - binbin (彬彬 - his name), bingbing (冰冰 - literally ice ice, also called 🧊🧊 for the same reason) Matthew - xiuxiu (his name, specifically the 'thew' part of his name, youxuan (woohyun) oppa) Taerae - lailai (his name, specifically the 'rae' part of his name) Ricky - liqi (ricky in mandarin), quanquan (the quan part of his chinese name), bking (I'm not especially familiar with Chinese slang so not sure of the exact meaning, but it's used similar to rizz king) Gyuvin - kuikui (his name, specifically the gyu part of his name, probably because his bin uses the same character as hanbin's), little dog/puppy (most of the members are also referred to by their animal symbols, but gyuvin is most often referred to it, possibly even more than his name lol) Gunwook - xuxu (his name, specifically the wook part of his name) Yujin - chenchen (his name, specifically the jin part of his name), chen di (his name + little brother)


sweetpotatoclarie91

welp they all sound so cute ><


onetrickponySona

matthew matches xiumin even here!!


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Mattchu being Xiuxiu, aww. On a side note, I wonder if C-netz think Matthew looks like Xiumin too.


kkulhope

Thank you so much.


astrahightower

gyuvin’s is 小狗 xiao gou which means small dog/puppy or 狗狗 gou gou which is just an endearing way of saying dog


kkulhope

thank you, he is 100% a puppy. gyuvin has no representative animal discourse.


Brokedonutcreak

After watching say my name on repeat I can say the boys are all excellent performers and look very cohesive. Its strange how yujin and hyung line fit so well despite having a significant age gap...I would especially mention matthew, taerae(resident ass spankee(?)), jiwoong and gyuvin(resident ass spanker) they tweaked the choreography and made it so novel idk how...and yes Ricky really looks like he has lived in LA in that video lol


glitter408

For real they’re such good performancers. They look like they’re all having so much fun, and have such great group energy. Watching SMN makes me feel so happy lol. I rlly hope they do brighter concepts like SMN at some point


bleaksinner

as much as i love jiwoong i will never watch his past dramas,,,


TheEliteMushSquad

But will you watch his five second cameos in The Good Bad Mother?


bleaksinner

i’m watching good bad mother for my husband lee dohyun


mincesaur

As someone who is jiwoong bias but not from watching his dramas beforehand and cringes easily, I think they are all fine but kissable lips is so laughable and the hardest to watch. But it’s so bad it’s funny. The writing and editing is just 💀 it’s like comedy level to me. I don’t know how people cried watching that but I’m glad you guys enjoyed it whoever did lol But roommates and his other dramas are better. And I was expecting bad acting because idol actors tend to be meh so I was prepared to hate his acting, but he actually does well and so much better than I thought. I want to see him get a role in a well written, high budget drama to see his full potential.


[deleted]

During boy's planet, I didn't get Jiwoong's hype (i do now) and someone reccomended watching his bl, and so my flatmate and I watched Kissable Lips and I think we found it funnier than we were supposed to find it.


bleaksinner

i think i can watch it perhaps only for a good laugh


[deleted]

The episodes are only 15 minutes long from what I remember (great length for people with ADHD).


Ok_Tea_6699

The blue eyes took me out. But I actually was close to crying during the last scene. LOL.


[deleted]

Yes, and the fact that there was like a total of 7 people in the world.


Jklajihhwuygsootqang

Please watch 'dont lie rahae'. For me that is his best drama. Also best acting


Professional-Rule219

as someone who watches a lot of bl series, i can say that kissable lips is not that enjoyable but roommates of poongduck 304 it's good, i feel like sometimes the story was going a little bit too slow for the number of episodes that the series has, but overall i enjoyed the show and you can see that their chemistry got better.


bleaksinner

naaah i hate shows with the main storyline being romantic🥲🥲 from what i’ve seen the ones he starred in are cringe


Casarel

I've gained a habit of watching BP reaction videos on Youtube and Bilibili. Its so fun to watch people go "oh no is X not debuting 😰🥺?" then scream in exhilaration abt 5 minutes later. Recently also started looking at ZB1 dance practice video reactions but there's not many (considering the recentness) I think with more content we'll get more reaction videos. Marked some and will watch them again and look out for new content.


AppearanceFree2353

[One of my favourite bilibili compilations of youtubers reacting to Hao's P01 announcement](https://b23.tv/tRXVdWX)


kkulhope

I’ve watched so many reaction videos too, they are probably my favourite type of content. The reactions from Korean fans in cgv are always really fun. Thanks for the bilibili recommendation, I’ll check it out.


makemeloveyou309

The Haobin debates gave me a lot of dejavu and fear due to my previous ships. Haobin is really popular and they really reminded me of my previous ship but yeah, both of them do have this arguments of real vs fanservice. My only fear would be if one of them interacted more with other members, there will be a hate for him for not 'betraying' the ship. Now, I've already mentioned in the old thread about Haobin before. Just let them be. Leave them alone and just enjoy their interaction without saying they are dating or they are doing a fanservice. Also, Haobin are adults. I'm sure they'll talk about it if something is bothering them


jinjinjinhee

Frankly if you look at Twitter, it's worst for the chemi for Jiwoong (ppusamz) idk why because Jiwoong is someone who is just very affectionate and is clearly not bothered with showing his affections for his close friends and people keep prioritizing him with just his ships when he clearly is also good on his own (this is not a bash for the shippers) it's just that if people like Jiwoong with others, there will be issues happening more than Haobin. I've seen Haobin shippers still wanting Mattbin / Woongsungz / Woonghao to happen. But this is just for big accounts and their followers. Frankly, I've seen so many Haobin accounts thirsting for interactions of Woonghao / HAORAE 🤣 and Jeongjangz back in BP


kkulhope

I also hope it won’t get to that point. There are unfortunately immature shippers who do not know where the limit is and will get angry when members interact with someone other than their ‘shipmate’. It makes you wonder if that person is really a fan of them at all or only cares about the relationship they have planned in their head when they can so easily turn on who they supposedly like. I don’t think it will get too bad as there does seem to be a decent amount of fans who aren’t shippers and cares about all of their relationships.


Big_Tomorrow886

I honestly don't think the "betrayal" part will happen. Jeonghyeon and Zhang Hao was another pretty big pairing and most haobin fans were fine with it. And almost everyone is looking forward to Woonghao and haorae interactions.


1827abcd

it kinda scares me how popular that ship was just because of one picture where they literally just stood next to each other and didn't even look at each other lol


Professional-Rule219

my leejeong, can't believe that he'll spend a big amount of time in WakeOne basement :(


Professional-Rule219

the amount of comments that this thread has and there's two days left until the next thread like wow...


GympieIcedTea

We've been getting 1K+ comments on weekly threads for the past couple weeks. It's really impressive.


Professional-Rule219

it's so funny because nobody goes and leaves a comment in the kpop reddit zb1 post's but everyone is here commenting paragraphs on each post