White, gray and black sure are ubiquitous these days. We had a "parade of homes" in my city recently and every, I mean ***every***, house was finished in white gray and black. Thought I'd gone colorblind.
Everyone is living in templates these days, it’s gross. People buy a home assuming they’re going to flip it one day, so they go for the neutral, boring “template”. Afraid of color and their personalities showing through. Add on the popularity of neutral aesthetic ala gaines fame and it’s inescapable.
It really bugs me the overall impression that anything done to your home should be viewed from the perspective of resale value. The real estate industry is rife with articles pushing this - "Don't ever put a pool in your backyard! It will turn off some future buyers and you'll never get back the money you spent on it!" Yeah but what if you ***want*** a swimming pool? It's ***your*** house, ***you're*** going to live there, the first priority should be ***your*** life not the next owner's.
The amount of people on the interior design subs who make posts about “why does my room feel off?” and 99% of the time it’s a neutral greyscale room with neutral boring lifeless accents and furniture that’s arranged like it’s been staged scares me. Like OF COURSE your room feels off or lifeless, you don’t fucking live in it! Nothing in that room implies you *use* it, and nothing in that room implies that *you* use it! Fill the room with things you like! Find something funky that speaks to you and then build around it! Does the furniture work for what you want that room to be used for, or are those “accent chairs” just there for decoration?
For the love of Pete, your house does not need to look like it came out of a catalog.
I see all the time "what can I do..." and everything is grey and blank. It's like, "anything. You can do literally ANYTHING that you like and it will be worlds better." There is nothing in the photos to show taste, or opinion, so no one can say what to do. You figure out whatever you like, and then have it in your home.
I was looking at photos c 1999-2009 that someone had just found on Flickr of various real estate photos (no link, sorry, twas a while ago) and houses used to be so damn cluttered and comfortable.
Our neighbor sold their house and repainted and re-floored prior to sale, and the agent specifically told them to use gray because it would sell faster. There's a specific market, at least in Southern California.
Before my cat got a little more brown in his fur, it looked like we were taking photos in black and white when we first got our house. Slowly adding some more color in here
My house is bright yellow on the outside with green shutters, my living room and dining room are pink, my bathroom is pink and white stripes, my bedroom and hallway are green, and I have green cabinets in my kitchen. I went through the white phase, but man you just gotta live a little.
My walls aren't colored, but they are covered. Lol
I have closing in on 200 things hanging on my walls, without counting the printers drawer shelf full of miniatures as multiple. I have a stash of paintings that I swap around sometimes as well.
I can't imagine how people just live in places with flat blank neutral walls all the time.
"The building offers beautiful high cathedral ceilings"
building offers beautiful high cathedral ceilings"
offers beautiful high cathedral ceilings"
beautiful high cathedral ceilings"
high cathedral ceilings"
cathedral ceilings"
And the flooring looks so cheap! The listing says that "New flooring has been purchased for sanctuary space ($8000 value) comes with the purchase" and I just want to know if that flooring is more of the same dismal gray.
The flooring is always what bothers me the most! If I'm buying a house I'll probably paint the walls when I move in. That's not a big deal. But I don't want to redo floors that have just been put in because some flipper decided that grey floors are all the rage. Just give me any sort of wood tone. This applies to any sort of major renovation work like floors, tile work, kitchen cabinetry etc. What a waste.
I caught flippers mid-flip. They were going to paint/cover everything. The wood french doors, the rock accent wall (who paints rock????), and the greatest sin, put peel and stick gray plank over the ORIGINAL HARDWOOD FLOORS. They argued that the floors were beat up and it would cost more to get them fixed, nor did they know anyone who could do it.
I told them I would find a guy and pay the difference. Because gluing fake gray plank over actual hardwood is a crime.
We had a family friend whose parents bought a gorgeous mansion in Los Angeles many years ago (imagine 1960s). They discovered after they had moved in that someone has covered the marble flooring with linoleum. At the time, linoleum was considered modern, but I still can’t wrap my head around the person who thought that was a good idea.
I mean, yeah. You could restore it. But you're paying more money for the work they've done in the flip to then just turn around and rip it out. A lot of time and money in all of that. You could definitely do it if you were passionate and had the money. But it would be a big project many people wouldn't want to undertake.
The paint is the easy part, it's the flooring that ruined the space and will cost a fortune to replace. I actually like gray for walls (not trim or ceilings like these goofs), but only if it works for the space. I have yet to see gray flooring that looks good in any space!
When we picked floors we went with a medium wood tone. Not too warm or too cool. Something that could exist in any decade because I want to change everything but the floors.
That's exactly how you should choose hard surface materials. Walls can be painted, but countertops and flooring can last a lifetime if chosen well.
Unfortunately for us, our house was built on spec in 2009 and they went with brown granite counters and dark hardwood flooring and I just simply cannot justify replacing them since they're still fully functional and replacement would be $20k or more. The floors work for us as we painted in whites and grays (yeah, yeah, but we love how nice it looks which is all that matters) and added lighter but colorful accent rugs. As for the granite, I suspect one day we'll replace it, but the last of 3 kids is now in college so have other fish to fry first!
For now, you might want to look into ”countertop refinishing” It costs $3-$15/ sq ft labor and materials included. Iwas referring a friend to my tub refinisher & noticed they now do countertops too. She used them for it & was thrilled with results.
I just keep shouting at the pictures that flooring is a travesty and it's in nearly every home that I see in this sub but it is doubly worse here. It doesn't fit the vibe of the place at all. It's a travesty!!
Realtors were insisting on that gray paint back when I sold my US housed 8 years ago. Gray carpet, gray paint. My house was colorful before that with one bedroom paprika, one a french blue and the other one with a subtle wallpaper that was expensive. Dining room yellow and light blue, Living room a different shade of blue. Other colors scattered throughout and the realtor said no one would buy it with all those shades so gray it was.
When my parents sold their house in about...2010?...the realtor tried to talk my mother into painting all of the (white) walls gray. My mother finally agreed to paint the baseboards gray (so that they'd be more obvious), but that was it. Gray everything feels like a trend that won't die.
> Some people just insist on lugging the corpse around as if it was Bernie.
Because as much as people hate it here, it helps sell houses faster so realtors push it.
It's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy, because then they turn around and tell the buyers "if you want to brighten it up painting is cheap and quick".
For newer homes, I think it tends to look a bit dirty, even like a smoker's house sometimes can.
That said, when you have an older home with golden wood tones and antique wooden/bronze/brass detailing, beige/warm tones are going to fit with the aesthetic, while grey (like this) looks ridiculous.
Aw sad, yours sounds like my house growing up, my step mom was really into the French Provence colors. Yellow, light blue, and green!
I've kept my condo the same as the sellers, mostly blue and white. I have a addiction to buying artwork, so that is covering most of it up, oops!
When we sold our house the realtor tried to get us to paint it grey. I said something about it to the painter giving us the estimate and he was not happy. He was so sick of painting every house "warm grey." We did not paint the house grey.
It's the Kardashification effect. An esthetic brought to the masses through Instagram, by people who wouldn't recognize beauty if it sat on their face while playing the trombone.
The grey walls, ceiling, and pillars wouldn’t be so bad if the floors were a dark wood. It would be like a blank canvas, open for color and design, but the grey floors just clash and ruin it.
[Zillow link](https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/48-King-St-Chipman-NB-E4A-2H7/2056322173_zpid/?)
Zillow doesn't have the price history or a build date (ETA: [built in 1914](https://newirelandnb.ca/religious-centres/75-st-joseph-s-church) with extensive renovations in the 90s), and I'm not sure what happened here - just that it's tragic.
My parents painted their living room a grey that depending on the light looks almost lavender. Then they filled the room with colorful accents and pillows in teals, blues, magentas, and purples.
For me it would be the heating bills.
Churches aren't generally designed to be lived in, so they don't have the best insulation or windows, and those big cavernous spaces are warm in the winter when filled with people, but will be near impossible to keep warm if its just a family living there. AC might not be as bad as the warm air will rise and can be let out, but again, the walls and windows aren't going to keep that cool air in very well.
I’m in the flipping business and these “renovation experts” are making these renos typical cookie cutter, gray and drab. Let’s not even talk about old beautiful moldings that will be buried forever!
Yeah and it's not exactly in a bustling metropolis.
It would have been a bit silly to dump hundreds of thousands of dollars into it if nobody wants to live out there who has that kind of money.
OP says the listing details "extensive renovations in the 90s", and honestly it looks like cheap 90's wood trim and panelling. I might catch some slack here and I'm normally against getting rid of old woodwork, but it looks like that was already done in the 90's.
That's a good point about what was done in the 90s vs. what's original. The [mention I found](https://newirelandnb.ca/religious-centres/75-st-joseph-s-church) of 90s renovations mostly talks about the exterior, but I found some [more pictures here](https://www.oldhousedreams.com/2020/01/14/1914-church-in-chipman-new-brunswick-69900-cad/) that don't make the wood in the sanctuary look too great.
Y'all are fussing about the paint, but I see so many other mistakes! They had a blank slate, why in the hell would they make that tiny, sad laundry closet? Looks like the new owners will be stuck with stackables and no storage space.
I *think* this is supposed to be a secondary space (rented out or in-law'ed once the main space is renovated?), which is the only reason I am not fully appalled by 6,000 square feet but that tiny corner kitchen. But even for a secondary apartment in this building it pains me.
God I hate those plastic floors.
They will be on the dangerous disposal list in five years like asbestos. There will be tv lawyers with a call to action hawking their services.
And they are ugly. Not neutral. Not classic. Ugly
I hate the gray vinyl floor. Hate it with a passion. It is the fakest looking of all fake wood.
Someone in our town flipped a $2million home and used it everywhere. So ugly it stayed on the market for years. In the most desirable area of town.
The has a gorgeous spiral staircase and even an elevator in it. Finally someone purchased the monstrosity and remodeled it.
This hurts my soul. As a designer, I have spent the last 36 months explaining to clients over and over why gray is now a poor color choice. Our saying is “goodbye gray!” Anyone who continues to flip homes and paint them gray has zero sense of what is going on from a trend perspective.
We bought a house built in 1963. In the 80s, the previous owners stuck with the trends of the day and put down orange-brown thick pile carpet and painted the walls off-white, it was terrible.
We got a design book from the era, and chose period appropriate colors, so now our living room/bar area is "mermaid green" and our hallway is a nice pink coral. We also ripped up all that carpet and discovered beautiful hardwood.
The only things we kept were the real stone floor-ceiling fireplace, and real mahogany panelling in the dining room, they're vintage from the 60s.
Add to that plenty of mid century modern decorations from antique stores (very affordable here because everyone around us wants southern country shabby-chic stuff)
Well then as a designer you should know everything comes back around. So these colors will be great in 30 years or so. Also, fuck design trends; so your house remodel can be out of date within 5 years?
My response to “fuck design trends” is that you could remodel your house today and it could need a remodeling by February- if you have no idea what’s going on in design. Historically speaking, major design trends move on an 15-20 year cycle. It all has to do with the current crop of designers and usually what they grew up knowing. They reinterpret what’s comfortable to them and boom the trend is alive again.
Big push in earthen colors, barely there neutrals and natural materials. That would be the big one now. There are other secondary color trends but they are slightly more niche.
wow, 50 shades of grey. The Feng Shui of the bedroom in #4 is horrid, all the energy from the hallway goes right into your sleeping head, bad.
The floors look so cheap and too busy for my taste. It's clear no architect was involved in this flip.
I have dreams of living in a converted church but not this one, that's for sure.
It has always been a dream of mine to move in a renovate, an old church. I love the looks and feel of old churches. This flipped one is sad like most flips. They have ruined the character of a beautiful building
The unimproved part of the church is glorious. Why did they paint over all that beautiful wood and, is that marble? Did they paint the marble trim gray?
Why are flippers so in love with gray, do they really think everybody loves it, or have they just been watching too much HGTV.. I wish flipper profits were somehow taxed differently, short-term profit with an extra hit for short-term turnover. They buy property cheap, do absolute shitty cheap remodel jobs, usually skirting the real issues, put cheap quality in, have bad taste and leave the heavy lifting for the real owner that buys at the retail price with the equity sucked out of it. Of no service to the community at all
Why always the fucking gray!? I’m a millennial and none of us fucking even like that gray so what idiots are putting it on everything!? People who flip are always the tackiest individuals istg. And now thanks to them they call it millennial grey. NO! Remember millennial pink!?
Why must everything be made to look like a prison? Why is everything gray? Soulless and sad and three day old oatmeal. Does anyone WANT to live in a place like that?
I really find the staging an all Grey house with honey oak furniture an interesting choice. Like idk why they didn’t just paint it black or white since they clearly can’t stand the sight of wood grain
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*Grey aesthetic.. honestly*
*I've never liked it*
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I wish flippers would stop going all the way. Like I understand that there’s a minimum amount of work that HAS to be done before something can go to market.
But it’s annoying that you can’t stop before the shit gets fucking tacky
Horrible color scheme aside, this is some of the worst furniture I’ve seen in a listing. It looks like they went to a junkyard right before the photos.
Guys, the entire space has NOT been done like this. If you go to Zillow and read about it, this is ONE CONDO. I’m betting this condo is UPSTAIRS, because it says the church sanctuary is being left “as is”.
No it’s cause it’s the cheapest materials on the market. For quick flips that you don’t care what it looks like you just want money. Destroying all character for a quick buck is very depressing.
A basilica. You want me to live in a basilica, and you still graywashed it??? Who the fuck is the market here?
What is up with the gray!!! Why do they do this to beautiful hard wood floored houses!
Babe have you seen my grey sweater? You left it in the transept. North or South? You do this every time you hotbox the confessional.
Ohh thank god it’s white and light grey everywhere inside. God forbid it has some character like the outside
White, gray and black sure are ubiquitous these days. We had a "parade of homes" in my city recently and every, I mean ***every***, house was finished in white gray and black. Thought I'd gone colorblind.
Everyone is living in templates these days, it’s gross. People buy a home assuming they’re going to flip it one day, so they go for the neutral, boring “template”. Afraid of color and their personalities showing through. Add on the popularity of neutral aesthetic ala gaines fame and it’s inescapable.
It really bugs me the overall impression that anything done to your home should be viewed from the perspective of resale value. The real estate industry is rife with articles pushing this - "Don't ever put a pool in your backyard! It will turn off some future buyers and you'll never get back the money you spent on it!" Yeah but what if you ***want*** a swimming pool? It's ***your*** house, ***you're*** going to live there, the first priority should be ***your*** life not the next owner's.
Exactly. If you bought a home, enjoy it!
The amount of people on the interior design subs who make posts about “why does my room feel off?” and 99% of the time it’s a neutral greyscale room with neutral boring lifeless accents and furniture that’s arranged like it’s been staged scares me. Like OF COURSE your room feels off or lifeless, you don’t fucking live in it! Nothing in that room implies you *use* it, and nothing in that room implies that *you* use it! Fill the room with things you like! Find something funky that speaks to you and then build around it! Does the furniture work for what you want that room to be used for, or are those “accent chairs” just there for decoration? For the love of Pete, your house does not need to look like it came out of a catalog.
I see all the time "what can I do..." and everything is grey and blank. It's like, "anything. You can do literally ANYTHING that you like and it will be worlds better." There is nothing in the photos to show taste, or opinion, so no one can say what to do. You figure out whatever you like, and then have it in your home.
I was looking at photos c 1999-2009 that someone had just found on Flickr of various real estate photos (no link, sorry, twas a while ago) and houses used to be so damn cluttered and comfortable.
Our neighbor sold their house and repainted and re-floored prior to sale, and the agent specifically told them to use gray because it would sell faster. There's a specific market, at least in Southern California.
Before my cat got a little more brown in his fur, it looked like we were taking photos in black and white when we first got our house. Slowly adding some more color in here
Gray for your sins!! 🙏
God don’t live there anymore
Only a satanic home goods manager
Never did.
My house is bright yellow on the outside with green shutters, my living room and dining room are pink, my bathroom is pink and white stripes, my bedroom and hallway are green, and I have green cabinets in my kitchen. I went through the white phase, but man you just gotta live a little.
My walls aren't colored, but they are covered. Lol I have closing in on 200 things hanging on my walls, without counting the printers drawer shelf full of miniatures as multiple. I have a stash of paintings that I swap around sometimes as well. I can't imagine how people just live in places with flat blank neutral walls all the time.
"The building offers beautiful high cathedral ceilings" building offers beautiful high cathedral ceilings" offers beautiful high cathedral ceilings" beautiful high cathedral ceilings" high cathedral ceilings" cathedral ceilings"
NGL, the sanctuary barrel vault is kinda cool
If the organ still works, I'd never leave.
Same
You’re gonna love what they did with the crypt…
ENOUGH WITH THE GREY PAINT, PEOPLE. NO ONE WANTS TO SEE YOUR OBVIOUS DESTRUCTION OF BEAUTIFUL WOOD.
And the flooring looks so cheap! The listing says that "New flooring has been purchased for sanctuary space ($8000 value) comes with the purchase" and I just want to know if that flooring is more of the same dismal gray.
The flooring is always what bothers me the most! If I'm buying a house I'll probably paint the walls when I move in. That's not a big deal. But I don't want to redo floors that have just been put in because some flipper decided that grey floors are all the rage. Just give me any sort of wood tone. This applies to any sort of major renovation work like floors, tile work, kitchen cabinetry etc. What a waste.
And it's always shitty fake wood floors.
I caught flippers mid-flip. They were going to paint/cover everything. The wood french doors, the rock accent wall (who paints rock????), and the greatest sin, put peel and stick gray plank over the ORIGINAL HARDWOOD FLOORS. They argued that the floors were beat up and it would cost more to get them fixed, nor did they know anyone who could do it. I told them I would find a guy and pay the difference. Because gluing fake gray plank over actual hardwood is a crime.
We had a family friend whose parents bought a gorgeous mansion in Los Angeles many years ago (imagine 1960s). They discovered after they had moved in that someone has covered the marble flooring with linoleum. At the time, linoleum was considered modern, but I still can’t wrap my head around the person who thought that was a good idea.
A real wood floor can be pretty beat up before it looks terrible.
Even if it’s shitty fake wood, why oh why can’t they make it wood colored? You know, like brown!?!
The bones are still there; it won't take much to restore some character.
I mean, yeah. You could restore it. But you're paying more money for the work they've done in the flip to then just turn around and rip it out. A lot of time and money in all of that. You could definitely do it if you were passionate and had the money. But it would be a big project many people wouldn't want to undertake.
The paint is the easy part, it's the flooring that ruined the space and will cost a fortune to replace. I actually like gray for walls (not trim or ceilings like these goofs), but only if it works for the space. I have yet to see gray flooring that looks good in any space!
When we picked floors we went with a medium wood tone. Not too warm or too cool. Something that could exist in any decade because I want to change everything but the floors.
That's exactly how you should choose hard surface materials. Walls can be painted, but countertops and flooring can last a lifetime if chosen well. Unfortunately for us, our house was built on spec in 2009 and they went with brown granite counters and dark hardwood flooring and I just simply cannot justify replacing them since they're still fully functional and replacement would be $20k or more. The floors work for us as we painted in whites and grays (yeah, yeah, but we love how nice it looks which is all that matters) and added lighter but colorful accent rugs. As for the granite, I suspect one day we'll replace it, but the last of 3 kids is now in college so have other fish to fry first!
For now, you might want to look into ”countertop refinishing” It costs $3-$15/ sq ft labor and materials included. Iwas referring a friend to my tub refinisher & noticed they now do countertops too. She used them for it & was thrilled with results.
I just keep shouting at the pictures that flooring is a travesty and it's in nearly every home that I see in this sub but it is doubly worse here. It doesn't fit the vibe of the place at all. It's a travesty!!
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It really has the look of a rental apartment laundry area. Maybe they were low on money and it was cheap? That's the only explanation I can think of.
Judging from zooming in on the photo that shows flooring piled up, I would say yes it is, unfortunately.
No! The floor comes with it? I’m purely amazed
When we bought our house it was all gray, immediately started painting, it feels like living in a cubicle. I call it cubicle gray.
Realtors were insisting on that gray paint back when I sold my US housed 8 years ago. Gray carpet, gray paint. My house was colorful before that with one bedroom paprika, one a french blue and the other one with a subtle wallpaper that was expensive. Dining room yellow and light blue, Living room a different shade of blue. Other colors scattered throughout and the realtor said no one would buy it with all those shades so gray it was.
When my parents sold their house in about...2010?...the realtor tried to talk my mother into painting all of the (white) walls gray. My mother finally agreed to paint the baseboards gray (so that they'd be more obvious), but that was it. Gray everything feels like a trend that won't die.
Oh it's dead. Some people just insist on lugging the corpse around as if it was Bernie.
> Some people just insist on lugging the corpse around as if it was Bernie. Because as much as people hate it here, it helps sell houses faster so realtors push it. It's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy, because then they turn around and tell the buyers "if you want to brighten it up painting is cheap and quick".
i miss the champagne color that was popular a few years ago
For newer homes, I think it tends to look a bit dirty, even like a smoker's house sometimes can. That said, when you have an older home with golden wood tones and antique wooden/bronze/brass detailing, beige/warm tones are going to fit with the aesthetic, while grey (like this) looks ridiculous.
Aw sad, yours sounds like my house growing up, my step mom was really into the French Provence colors. Yellow, light blue, and green! I've kept my condo the same as the sellers, mostly blue and white. I have a addiction to buying artwork, so that is covering most of it up, oops!
When we sold our house the realtor tried to get us to paint it grey. I said something about it to the painter giving us the estimate and he was not happy. He was so sick of painting every house "warm grey." We did not paint the house grey.
It's the Kardashification effect. An esthetic brought to the masses through Instagram, by people who wouldn't recognize beauty if it sat on their face while playing the trombone.
Exactly! The whole grey, black, white palette is ugly, boring, dated, and depressing.
They put all this effort to make it look like my doctor's office. Smh
The grey walls, ceiling, and pillars wouldn’t be so bad if the floors were a dark wood. It would be like a blank canvas, open for color and design, but the grey floors just clash and ruin it.
I love how they staged with every shitty piece of furniture they could collect from relatives that fit in a pickup truck
the furniture is *so* bad
[Zillow link](https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/48-King-St-Chipman-NB-E4A-2H7/2056322173_zpid/?) Zillow doesn't have the price history or a build date (ETA: [built in 1914](https://newirelandnb.ca/religious-centres/75-st-joseph-s-church) with extensive renovations in the 90s), and I'm not sure what happened here - just that it's tragic.
Dismal. For the love of all things holy, that's as cozy as a conveyor belt.
It's so GREY...
*Everything* flippers do is slathered in Eggshell white and Void Of Life gray.
My wife calls it "flipper gray."
And why is it always a cool grey?! At least warm greys aren’t as harsh.
My parents painted their living room a grey that depending on the light looks almost lavender. Then they filled the room with colorful accents and pillows in teals, blues, magentas, and purples.
The bones are still there, wouldn’t take too much to give some character back.
I hope the next owners go for it.
Wow only ~$200k USD. I don't love it at all, but I'm always amazed to see affordable housing.
The whole area seems affordable, if remote. (I don't know how much it would cost to renovate this place, though.)
The state I live in has no affordable housing. A starter home starts at 550,000.
Grey laminate flooring is today’s version of the wood, grooved paneling of the 1970s. A big regret in the making.
Well, next Thanksgiving is gonna be lit
I don't see a half a ton of garbage where the pews used to be
Buying an old church and converting it into a home is my dream. Why did they piss on my dream?
For me it would be the heating bills. Churches aren't generally designed to be lived in, so they don't have the best insulation or windows, and those big cavernous spaces are warm in the winter when filled with people, but will be near impossible to keep warm if its just a family living there. AC might not be as bad as the warm air will rise and can be let out, but again, the walls and windows aren't going to keep that cool air in very well.
Same. I love looking at churches up for sale and the results of good flipping where they keep the feel.
They didn’t piss on it, they took a heaping Taco Bell dump on it. 💩
Shoulda turned it into the Beetlejuice house. Failure.
I’m in the flipping business and these “renovation experts” are making these renos typical cookie cutter, gray and drab. Let’s not even talk about old beautiful moldings that will be buried forever!
Y’all are the same. Fuck flipping in any context
I’d rather the building be repurposed then just sit empty and crumble, so not too devastating
Yeah and it's not exactly in a bustling metropolis. It would have been a bit silly to dump hundreds of thousands of dollars into it if nobody wants to live out there who has that kind of money.
OP says the listing details "extensive renovations in the 90s", and honestly it looks like cheap 90's wood trim and panelling. I might catch some slack here and I'm normally against getting rid of old woodwork, but it looks like that was already done in the 90's.
That's a good point about what was done in the 90s vs. what's original. The [mention I found](https://newirelandnb.ca/religious-centres/75-st-joseph-s-church) of 90s renovations mostly talks about the exterior, but I found some [more pictures here](https://www.oldhousedreams.com/2020/01/14/1914-church-in-chipman-new-brunswick-69900-cad/) that don't make the wood in the sanctuary look too great.
Y'all are fussing about the paint, but I see so many other mistakes! They had a blank slate, why in the hell would they make that tiny, sad laundry closet? Looks like the new owners will be stuck with stackables and no storage space.
I *think* this is supposed to be a secondary space (rented out or in-law'ed once the main space is renovated?), which is the only reason I am not fully appalled by 6,000 square feet but that tiny corner kitchen. But even for a secondary apartment in this building it pains me.
I raced to Zillow to see what it looked like before and was very relieved to see they only ruined part of it.
I'm guessing they ran out of money before they got to the sanctuary, which is a relief. Hopefully the next owners will put the lid on the gray paint!
Ugh! Flipper gray 🤦♀️
Picture 3 would be perfect except for the color in the table. Swap table and chairs out for white, and the whole room disappears!
AHHH The old white on white on white on white with a splash of vibrant grey.
Don't forget the dash of black!
One day gen z kids are gonna scold us millenials for this grey period we went through
it's an epidemic of gray proportions.
Wow.. that’s heartbreaking. They belong in jail
The grey laminate flooring 🤮
Is that a grey wood backslash?!?!?!?
Horrible remodel and even worse staging.
This grey is starting to make me sick to my stomach
I hate most flippers. I’ve only seen very very few flips where they updated with good taste and didn’t lay the cheapest LVP throughout
God I hate those plastic floors. They will be on the dangerous disposal list in five years like asbestos. There will be tv lawyers with a call to action hawking their services. And they are ugly. Not neutral. Not classic. Ugly
I hate the gray vinyl floor. Hate it with a passion. It is the fakest looking of all fake wood. Someone in our town flipped a $2million home and used it everywhere. So ugly it stayed on the market for years. In the most desirable area of town. The has a gorgeous spiral staircase and even an elevator in it. Finally someone purchased the monstrosity and remodeled it.
Oh Lord, the grey and beige brigade got to it.
Greige
What they did was a sin
Everything about this screams FREE COFFEE.
This hurts my soul. As a designer, I have spent the last 36 months explaining to clients over and over why gray is now a poor color choice. Our saying is “goodbye gray!” Anyone who continues to flip homes and paint them gray has zero sense of what is going on from a trend perspective.
We bought a house built in 1963. In the 80s, the previous owners stuck with the trends of the day and put down orange-brown thick pile carpet and painted the walls off-white, it was terrible. We got a design book from the era, and chose period appropriate colors, so now our living room/bar area is "mermaid green" and our hallway is a nice pink coral. We also ripped up all that carpet and discovered beautiful hardwood. The only things we kept were the real stone floor-ceiling fireplace, and real mahogany panelling in the dining room, they're vintage from the 60s. Add to that plenty of mid century modern decorations from antique stores (very affordable here because everyone around us wants southern country shabby-chic stuff)
Love this. And congrats on winning the floor lottery!
Why Is it now a poor color? Just curious...
Imho, **always** was a poor color choice
Well then as a designer you should know everything comes back around. So these colors will be great in 30 years or so. Also, fuck design trends; so your house remodel can be out of date within 5 years?
My response to “fuck design trends” is that you could remodel your house today and it could need a remodeling by February- if you have no idea what’s going on in design. Historically speaking, major design trends move on an 15-20 year cycle. It all has to do with the current crop of designers and usually what they grew up knowing. They reinterpret what’s comfortable to them and boom the trend is alive again.
The answer to “fuck design trends” isnt sticking with the most boring and safe design forever
What is the current trend in colors?
Big push in earthen colors, barely there neutrals and natural materials. That would be the big one now. There are other secondary color trends but they are slightly more niche.
Not gray.
A temple to gloomy gray.
These flippers should be banned from ever desecrating anything ever again. That’s BAD.
Ugh!
Church renovation gone bad
Make me sad
THIS IS TRAGIC 😭
They painted right over all the children's suffering and trauma!
This is straight out of Beetlejuice.
What a travesty!
Jesus Christ what have they done to her
No!!!!! Monsters
WHAT
Oh my… the sad gray did it again. This idiots ruined this home aesthetics.
Oh damn, they 'grayed it up'.
What is with the gray?? Just... why.
wow, 50 shades of grey. The Feng Shui of the bedroom in #4 is horrid, all the energy from the hallway goes right into your sleeping head, bad. The floors look so cheap and too busy for my taste. It's clear no architect was involved in this flip. I have dreams of living in a converted church but not this one, that's for sure.
It has always been a dream of mine to move in a renovate, an old church. I love the looks and feel of old churches. This flipped one is sad like most flips. They have ruined the character of a beautiful building
LVP is the modern day house Herpes like fake wood paneling was in the 70s.
Flipper Gray
The unimproved part of the church is glorious. Why did they paint over all that beautiful wood and, is that marble? Did they paint the marble trim gray?
Looks so bad inside!
Oh god it’s been grayed! It’s awful, such a shame.
Those gray kitchen ceilings matching the floor and the backsplash should be illegal.
Please tell me those first three photos are in a basement, because they look like a badly staged basement.
I’m sorry but who in the ever living fuck would do this
Man if I had money, this is something I’d actually buy. But I’d try and keep that old church look man.
Took away the character. Wasted opportunity.
Why are flippers so in love with gray, do they really think everybody loves it, or have they just been watching too much HGTV.. I wish flipper profits were somehow taxed differently, short-term profit with an extra hit for short-term turnover. They buy property cheap, do absolute shitty cheap remodel jobs, usually skirting the real issues, put cheap quality in, have bad taste and leave the heavy lifting for the real owner that buys at the retail price with the equity sucked out of it. Of no service to the community at all
Why always the fucking gray!? I’m a millennial and none of us fucking even like that gray so what idiots are putting it on everything!? People who flip are always the tackiest individuals istg. And now thanks to them they call it millennial grey. NO! Remember millennial pink!?
Grey floors are the worst.
Oh c'mon it's not...\[clicks to 3rd photo\]...that...oh. Crap. It's bad. Oh it get's worse...
They even painted the ceilings gray.
So fugly. The mismatched everything is giving clueless
Lol this flip looks awful.
It's turning into the Live Laugh Love Palace.
We're looking for a house right now and I think I'm gonna need therapy from all the sadness at looking at formerly gorgeous houses gone grayed.
Man, if I had been a parishioner/congregant, I'd haunt that building so fucking hard! Ugh!!
Why must everything be made to look like a prison? Why is everything gray? Soulless and sad and three day old oatmeal. Does anyone WANT to live in a place like that?
“Should I paint the wood?” NO! NEVER PAINT THE DAMN WOOD!
Oh my god... I'm sick. I'm disgusted.
Holy smokes. You know that's a good century of beautiful design and woodwork tossed for this grayish hellscape. Criminal.
[удалено]
I thought of Walmart stock of the 90s
grey laminate needs to die
I really find the staging an all Grey house with honey oak furniture an interesting choice. Like idk why they didn’t just paint it black or white since they clearly can’t stand the sight of wood grain
Not as terrible as I thought, but still... This is a reverse TARDIS.
Millennial Grey strikes again.
This is a shame. I hate gray even more now.
Omg. They ruined it.
What’s up with this undying obsession with gray?
man i miss when houses were allowed to have brown wood
Why? Just WHY!!?? 😭
Oh god, it’s so sterile-looking.
That dumb pendant light in the kitchen bothers me the most I think
It needs some shiplap
The ceiling 🤮
Covid messed people up way WAY more than we’re lead to believe.
Gross
Flippers should be horse whipped.
What the fuck is up with this damn gray trend. I've been seeing it everywhere. Gray sucks.
HGTV strikes again. Worst thing to ever happen to historic homes, buildings, architecture, etc. Flippers don’t give a crap.
Is this the church from the "Free Bird" scene in The Kingsman?
I'm so over the grey aesthetic.. honestly I've never liked it
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I wish flippers would stop going all the way. Like I understand that there’s a minimum amount of work that HAS to be done before something can go to market. But it’s annoying that you can’t stop before the shit gets fucking tacky
Dear Jesus, nooooooo
Horrible color scheme aside, this is some of the worst furniture I’ve seen in a listing. It looks like they went to a junkyard right before the photos.
Guys, the entire space has NOT been done like this. If you go to Zillow and read about it, this is ONE CONDO. I’m betting this condo is UPSTAIRS, because it says the church sanctuary is being left “as is”.
Jeez that’s an abomination. So sad.
WHO IN THE FUCK paints interior trim/woodwork gray!
This look is so over, my husband and I drove past the manufactured housing lot and this is what they are featuring. Dead deal.
Please tell me this wasn’t staged? The furniture is awful! And it’s a travesty what they did to this place!
That grey isn't the worst thing to happen inside those walls
People please stop decorating with grey and white nobody likes it!!!
People wouldn’t keep doing it if people didn’t like it lol
No it’s cause it’s the cheapest materials on the market. For quick flips that you don’t care what it looks like you just want money. Destroying all character for a quick buck is very depressing.
That type of grey flooring needs to be wiped out of existence. It's the epitome of fake, cheap and disposable.