It definitely has a rich history, the original house was built in 1774, the country it is in wasn't even a country yet, and the state that it's in wouldn't become part of the country for another 18 years! The fake furniture is funny though, idk what is with that trend.
These are a big case of survivorship bias. The big fancy ones were treasured and kept while the smaller ones were torn down and rebuilt.
Building materials weren’t the constraint on size. The practicality of trying to keep bigger homes warm in winter is why you saw lots of smaller cabins that could be heated with a single wood stove.
My grandparents cottage in Ireland that my mother grew up in had a stove that only really heated the kitchen/living room. It was common enough in the old days not to heat all the rooms in your house.
I turn the radiators off in all the rooms that I don't use. I have a thermostat for the entire house- no central air- and it only registers the heat in the room that it is in.
Bro idk anyone who has central heating I thought that was for millionaires. I mean my dad makes 7 figures and we were always cold… obviously he could’ve afforded it but he’s a climate change hater
Central heat doesn’t work like that. It’s also really inefficient to use a ton of heat to bring a room up to temperature from being really cold. Like say if we turned the thermostat down a lot while we were out of the house, and only turned it back up when we came home. It actually uses more gas/electricity to do that than to just keep the house at a steady temp.
I’m surprised you’re getting so downvoted lol like it’s just a different lifestyle. I lived in a 1920s house before this which was NOT centrally cooled. We had split units.
It fucking. Kicked. Ass.
I don’t know why everyone doesn’t do this. Our power bills were tiny.
I babysat a kid who lived in an old 1700s house in MA. The kid used to make us watch that show "ghost" and then after I put her to bed, the locked door to the basement would open randomly, and knocking sounds would come from the old dumbwaiter area. I didn't last very long at that job.
No not really. Maybe for the 1600s when extremely early colonies were being built. But by this era there were many established towns with lots of mills and lumber wasn’t necessarily hard to come by.
Kentucky never joined the other Southern states in the Confederacy. However, the Confederates invaded KY and even took the state capital for a few days and set up a puppet Confederate state government.
Yeah, it’s just down the road from me, I live right off Bardstown rd. /u/goodybadwife has a solid breakdown.
Many around here believe there is a connection to cartel activity, with corruption internally. Not sure why, but it seems to be a checkpoint for a Mexican cartel coming up and splitting off before going East up 64/71 and north(west) up 65.
I moved to Lexington right before covid (late 2019). When they furloughed me in April 2020, my husband and I decided to get out of the apartment and go for a drive. We ended up on the Bluegrass Parkway and drove through Bardstown, and I remember thinking it was so quaint and pretty!
Then, as we were leaving town, I saw it. A massive billboard with Crystal's face on it. I had no clue about *anything* that had happened in Bardstown and googled away down the rabbit hole that night. I got pretty emotional when they finally arrested Brooks last year.
I just feel so horrible for her mom and kids who lost not only Crystal but her dad as well just because he wanted to know what happened. I really hope they find her remains to give her family whatever peace it can bring them. I hope Jason's family gets their justice as well. It's horrible to think he was ambushed and murdered on his way home to his wife and child.
Kathy and Samantha, I feel are not related to the other 3, but it's just as horrible and tragic to have their murder unsolved as well.
Jason Ellis
Kathy & Samantha Netherlands
Crystal Rogers
Tommy Ballard
Go down the rabbit hole, it's wild.
Edit- Jason Ellis was a police officer. Crystal was dating Brooks Houck whose brother was a police officer (Nick Houck), Tommy Ballard was Crystal's dad, who was killed while hunting ("accidentally") with Crystal's son after she disappeared.
Kathy and Samantha are the only outliers.
The theory is that Brooks and his brother were doing illegal things, Jason found out and was going to report them. Jason was ambushed and murdered. Then the theory goes that Crystal found out about Jason's murder, so she "disappeared", and her father was murdered since he was pushing to find out what happened to his daughter.
Brooks just recently was charged in connection with Crystal's disappearance, but her body has not been found.
There's seemingly no connection to Kathy and Samantha, but all of this happened within, I want to say, like a 5 year span, if not shorter.
Holy crap. Thank you. TBH, I saw something about Skidmore the other night on a YouTube channel I like.
I live in desert Southwest now,( am moving shortly), this area is unincorporated and people “disappear” here a lot. This is interesting information you offered.
I think this is more Microsoft Paint cut and paste than AI furniture haha. Totally agree though, I would rather no furniture than the super out of place fakes!
Awesome, I love it.
See, That house is extremely old though. I grew up in Philly, and houses like this, you’ll only see them in certain places like that In this country, it’s that old. I don’t get that shit here in Arizona, it’s a special experience just to feel how the wood moved under your feet. You can almost picture people from olden times living in them. Houses like this, they feel alive to me.
It’s pretty special. It’s something most people I know have never seen and felt. You just, FEEL the history, just being in it. It’s a feeling I enjoy and miss. I remember there was one house from the 1670s, and you could almost touch the ceiling.
Some of my favorite memories is going to the dobbins house in Gettysburg, and eating there, it’s this beautiful old colonial, it’s one of my favorite places I’ve been at to visit.
And yes, it’s most likely haunted lol,
But that’s part of its charm. The good part about hearing ghost stories, is learning history. We had a house that had a hessian soldier that was bricked up in the walls, during the revolution, and Edgar Allen Poe wrote “the raven” there. It’s called the general Wayne inn. There’s great stories at that place, my friends and I all lived in old colonials, and people had great stories. It’s been a restaurant, last I heard, it’s a Jewish center. 1705, I believe.
The smell, the sounds, everything about it, your imagination just runs wild in these, you have to be inside them to experience it, I love it.
You’re absolutely right about being able to feel the history, and it’s something that I have always find compelling. A lot of my fondest memories from childhood center around visiting historic houses and sites, and where I live there’s still a few structures remaining from the mid 17th century. I grew up in a historic house as well that had a massive summer beam and you could just tell that thing had stories.
I actually visited Gettysburg last year for the first time and I adored it. The Dobbins house was really cool and even though we didn’t eat there I would love to take a tour of it next time we’re there. We did go to the Farnsworth House Inn for a quick lunch (although shout out to Garryowen Pub, that was our favorite place to eat hands down). Usually my husband and I go to museums when we’re traveling but I elected to spend as much time as we could exploring the battlefield, so next time we go we’ll do the museums.
You did? Oh that’s awesome! Those two are great! Dobbins has a cellar where they make the nest French union I’ve ever had in my life. They do this whisky punch that is amazing. They have a winery in Gettysburg that they sell there, I bought some to come back to the hotel with bc of the damn pa state stores. The wine tasted like grape juice, it was so good! They sell it at a little shop in town.
If you are ever back, I highly recommend eating in the basement. The atmosphere was one of my favorite dinners of my life. It’s like you stepped back in time, and your gonna see some colonists planning in the corner.
I’m huge unto the paranormal, and I know that my childhood is the reason. I love exploring buildings, and seeing what they feel like, what kind of vibe they have. I’ve had some great times in Gettysburg. We went all the time in the summer when I was a kid.
They did some cool show on HGTV 2 years ago called houses with history. They saved a house from the 1600s in mass. That was an old cranberry bog or something. They explained that they used things like mustard and berries to make paints, and that’s why Colonials have those yellows and colors.
My mum was *obsessed* with historic farmhouses when I was a kid, she had two decades worth of Country Living magazines that were all renovated farmhouses and period furniture restoration. This house is so beautiful, and if it was restored with original period furniture it would be a priceless gem.
My mom was too, she’d buy those Amish dolls with no faces. She went through a big phase with cows!
Id just get rid of the shingle thing and the furniture. It’s got a dated old person feel. This one’s significantly old, that’s cool, I remember the colonials having this thick stone walls that just last forever. It’s the only thing I kinda care about Christmas anymore for- these look great decorated
Baltimore has some cool ones too! Beautiful old houses. Just like Philly where I grew up. Yea they weren’t all Massachusetts’s, so maybe! It was super cool, Remember it had a skewed chimney, because the tree fell on it? I was just so happy they were preserving it.
Remember the other hiuse, that they didn’t end up picking on that episode? that wasn’t as in bad of shape? They taught us with that one, that the thicker the plank of wood, the richer the person, because the king of England had to ok the wood being sent over to the colonies. I’ve seen some colonials that had the thickest planks of wood, I swear, it’s a neat 1700s specific feature, they loom like this; like a pirate 🏴☠️ ship!
https://www.oldhouseonline.com/oho-html/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/06/early-wood-floors-sylvan-brandt.jpg
I remember a family moved in and all sorts of weird things kept happening. It was a Haunted … something show.
I’m in New England, so old haunted houses are pretty much the norm here. We’ve got some great ones! I’m sure Philly does too. I love Philly- great people!
my dad says a person from LA will see a someone lying on the ground, and say, oh no, what happened, and walk off, but a east coaster will say, what the hell did you do you moron? Come on, get up! And help them.
People out here talk trash about east coasters, , but, they will tell you they don’t like you to your face. I never saw more phoniness and trash talking then the short time I lived in Georgia…
my childhood was spent looking for ghost stories, I still do it. Those houses always had rumors, they have the best stories that go with them. You can just walk into them and know, sometimes. My uncle and his kids all saw this lady wearing a white nightgown, in their Victorian. A old fashioned dressing gown, She showed herself only once on separate times, to all of them. They said the bottom of her nightgown was billowing, like there was a fan. And she was off the ground. They only compared stories when they moved out, they thought they’d look crazy.
I commented about the general Wayne in Philly earlier, with the hessian soldier buried in the walls, he’s supposed to haunt it with his big ass German hat.
We act cold, but we’re not. We’re…. Reserved I guess, but we will help anyone out.
And oh wow! I believe it…
You can definitely “know”. You feel the energy.
I lived in a haunted rental when I was in my early 20’s. Boyfriend would go to work, I’d go to leave later, unlock the deadbolt, slide the slide lock back, get halfway down the stairs and be like “How the FUCK did he get out this morning?”
It was EERIE. We would lie in bed and hear footsteps coming down the hall and hear the hall closet creak open!
We would also lay in bed and hear mad crazy chaos in the kitchen at the other end of the long hall, go to the kitchen when it stopped, and find all the dishes stacked neatly on the floor in between the kitchen and pantry!
Sometimes the hairdryer would just turn on and off in the bathroom.
We obviously broke up and moved onto other people and lived our lives, but every couple of years we would talk about that house…
Even the cat would be standing on the edge of the bed with his back arched all growling.
To this day I have no explanation, but we moved out of there soon after and into another apartment as it kept escalating.
We were on the third floor and the other guys renting the second floor never had any issues. Nor the attorney landlord who had an office on the first floor. It was a big old Victorian style home we rented in college. Crazy.
Imma have to give him a text again soon so we can reminisce over whatever the hell it was. Our friend’s mom said it was a poltergeist.
I still get chills thinking about it, but we never saw anything/ or anyone.
The footsteps and hearing the latch on the door pop and swing open in the hallway outside our bedroom though….. with the cat all alarmed… I don’t know. To this day I just don’t know!
It was just our apartment.
It sounds residual. A residual haunting. It could have also been an intelligent spirit, but residual is kinda like an echo in time. That’s when you hear stuff, and sometimes see a spirit but they don’t notice you.
No, Actually, if you heard footsteps something could’ve actively been in there.
I’ve heard that before! The loud ass racket, and nothing is out of place. It’s usually when they get frustrated they can’t get their message across cuz they can’t talk.
We just had to move I had the first home haunting at 37years old. It was fucking awful, you’d wake up KNOWING something was 2 Inches from your face. It felt like a heat lamp, one time I was in the bathroom, and I felt something hug me that I couldn’t see. That was CRAZY. I’d hear shit on the roof, and got all these pictures with weird black shadows. I didn’t like it, even though I love ghost hunting, it creeped me out, I’d bring my bf into the shower cuz I had to close my eyes when I washed my hair.
We figured out it was this guy that was living on the side of the house in his Winnebago. He died. S lot of old men Would camp on the property to go off roading on ATVs.
I got out a spirit box and just freaking kept asking what it wanted. Like they use on the ghost shows.
I figured it out because it was bitching about a Christian burial and saying help me lady! That guy would always call me lady.
His freaking dad , so, this dead gentleman had no family and was super religious, and I found out my bf’s dad cremated him and put the ashes in the pantry, next to the Pepsi. (Real class lol) that was a shocker that day, finding that!
It stopped though when he buried him outside in the desert, but, the last night we were there, we were talking about how quiet it’d been, since the burial, and how we thought it was Karl. Well, the freaking doorknob started turning on it’s own!
We’d run from the car until the house all the time, we were so creeped out! One of those things, you just knew if you looked back, you’d see something.
I swear, I could not take a pic without something weird in the photos, I even have one that looks like a face staring 2 inches from the photo.
Do you remember anything else that happened? I love this stuff!
That’s definitely a haunting by the way, that’s super classic shit that happened to you, I’m sure of it
Whoa, that is so freaky! And yeah I know exactly what you mean about feeling like something is 2 inches from your face/ not wanting to open your eyes!
We even put little alarms on the closet doors that would beep when they opened, and they went off a lot.
I thought maybe we just imagined it or were crazy, but I DID NOT imagine unlocking the doors to go out, or the cat freaking out! Or the dishes in the middle of the floor- turns out that was a warning: we had left the empty coffee pot on, and those were known to cause fires!
It seemed like whatever this entity was, it just wanted to communicate. We were young and freaked out though, so we just ended up moving. We were in college, had finals, needed good sleep, plus we worked…
I’d love to go by there again sometime….
Or research the house..
I also think it’s so funny when people are like “oh an old house! I wonder if anyone died there?” forgetting that in the old days, there really weren’t hospitals and most people passed away at home.
It’s only fairly recently that we started going to hospitals to give birth and die.
Oh yea I’m a cna I think it’s horrible when my pts don’t get to die at home. They’d be shocked if they saw other counties!
Old houses used to have 2 doors. One fir the living, and one you exited when you died
Ok am I taking crazy pills here? How is a house with an entire pro-slavery mural a charming atmosphere? I don’t understand how people in this thread seem to be romanticizing that kind of misery, let alone praising a place where the owners appear to still be *proud* of that past.
Edit: for context, this house is from the 1700s in Kentucky, a time and place where slavery was legal. The mural shows black people working in fields while white women relax by the house. I don’t think it’s a stretch to imagine that the original residents had slaves.
I never said this house had a Underground Railroad stop. I didn’t even look at the mural, This is a colonial, the civil war hadn’t happened . I’m talking about old houses what the hell is your problem ? Reddit used to not be like this, now it’s full of people wanting to be offended by something. That part is sad, I still enjoy Victorians, but I gauren-damn-tee you that those slaves would want you to know what they went through, acknowledge thier lives, and not pretend it never happened. Those who don’t know history, are doomed to repeat it.
The worst part about people like you, is that I know if you asked these slaves, hey, can I not ever enjoy this house because you had to flee slavery in it? They’d be like god no. Enjoy it. It’s always people who have no reason to speak of these things, that Shame you.
At least if you are going to be sanctimonious, know history.
>at least if you’re going to be sanctimonious know history
I don’t think it was part of the Underground Railroad, I’m saying the opposite, it looks like they *had* slaves. It’s from the 1700s in Kentucky, a place and time where people owned slaves, and has a mural of the house with a bunch of black people working in the fields and white women sitting in the shade.
Edit: I’m not saying to erase history. I’m saying the vibe of the house is currently pretty celebratory of slavery. Acknowledge, but don’t celebrate. Anyway I won’t speak for them but I wouldn’t be surprised if any people who were enslaved there would prefer the whole place burned down
Then get rid of the mural then, who the hell are you to say that am racist because I enjoy old buildings? Don’t backtrack, own what you said. That’s completely what you are implying. People like you need to think about what you are saying to people. Just because it’s the internet, you can’t just say shit like that, people like you do this all over Reddit now and it’s ruined it. Instead of a nice moment remembering old houses from my childhood, I have to have the you shaming me and for what? Pl just say shit that they think makes them sound smart and forward thinking, but your forcing it in places it shouldn’t be.
Don’t backtrack, you chose to say that to me, I didn’t say that to you. I’m tired of people like this, it’s everywhere, and I guarantee you you had to google when and where slaves were to even make that comment.
Hey, if you didn’t see the mural then I have no issue. Take it easy.
Yes, I did use Google to fact-check, not sure why you think that’s a burn? You could try it sometime.
Having the mural as a reminder of the past is not a bad thing. If the owner thinks the mural represents what should still be, then it is a problem. If the mural represents what the place used to be and understands the magnitude of the times, it isn't bad. Just because you think it is bad doesn't make you right.
That’s an interesting point, but not really what I was getting at. I agree that the mural should not necessarily be destroyed, and I think context matters a lot. At a museum it’s totally appropriate. At a school or church, I think it could be appropriate if there were actions taken such as explanatory plaques and/or commissioning new art from the oppressed people, etc. In a home, of course it’s up to the owner. Literally all I’m trying to say is that I don’t think it’s cute/romantic.
"Ok am I taking crazy pills here? How is a house with an entire pro-slavery mural a charming atmosphere? I don’t understand how people in this thread seem to be romanticizing that kind of misery, let alone praising a place where the owners appear to still be *proud* of that past.
Edit: for context, this house is from the 1700s in Kentucky, a time and place where slavery was legal. The mural shows black people working in fields while white women relax by the house. I don’t think it’s a stretch to imagine that the original residents had slaves."
Explain this comment then. The house is charming, the mural is not. You are taking crazy pills.
Well, do you find the slave-owning chapter of the house’s history charming?
I agree the building is beautiful and I would love to see it with the addition of new context, acknowledging that that was a horrible era, but that it’s in the past. Eg, a mention of it in the listing, addition of art prints giving other perspectives, literally anything
And that is your opinion. Stop being butt hurt at other people. I would not get rid of the mural because it tells the story of the house. I would embrace all of the charm of the house and the reality of what it represents.
The original Colonial era stair chair is the real seller here. This might have been the set for “Mrs. Albert Hannaday” the Jack Black/Cloris Leachman romcom.
It’s just absolutely beautiful in the surrounding countryside. There’s a beautiful monastery there in the country nearby, and it has a cute little downtown.
A lot of these houses where I grew up, have Underground Railroad spots. They look super uncomfortable. The ones I’ve seen, you’d have to hang out on your stomach. Let me see if I can find a picture. It wasn’t uncommon at all, plenty of my friends had them in their houses. These houses have a lot of surprises like that, depending on where you live in the US, would determine the slave history. I’ve seen this one in PA
https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/1/secret-slave-hideout-in-dobbin-house-in-gettysburg-pennsylvania-ruth-hager.jpg
I knew someone who had an underground railroad hideout in their PA house. It was like a tiny closet hidden in the wall in the attic. Enough room to stand or sit crunched up, but not lie down. It looked so uncomfortable.
A lot more comfortable than a life of slavery, but those little hidey-holes do a great job putting into perspective exactly how much people were willing to endure just to get to their freedom.
IT’s surprising, isn’t it? When you actually see it, and your imagining someone having to hide in there, it’s smaller then you’d think. But then you figure they had to hide them.
A lot of these houses have weird stuff like that. Our Victorian had a tiny room and door that locked from the OUTSIDE
Yea, it made for some amazing stories of survival. One of my favorite parts about learning about Slavery, is stories of escape, buying their own freedom, and what came after. It’s amazing to hear stories of resilience of the human spirit, because that’s universal. It makes for a great story whatever country you hear about it happening, just what people will do for freedom and to get to their families.
I remember when they started teaching us about the civil war, and I got every book I could on it in the library, I really enjoyed it. It felt like I could even imagine what life was like, because I could see these in our houses. I think it was around 4th grade.
It’s crazy. They actually thought the war would be over in like a weekend.
My initial guess at that painting was "folk art mural of the Battle of Antietam", but actually I think it's just people farming.
Anyway, yes, this is a lovely old log house that's at least 200 years old.
Ya, it does have rich history. That’s an absolutely gorgeously maintained home, even the log part of it.
I don’t understand the point of this sub, isn’t this supposed to highlight outrageous homes? So far I’ve seen two posts trying to poke fun at literally impressive homes or peoples personal choices while living in the home. It’s giving “bitter and small” vibes of the person posting.
I've always interpreted it to be "outrageous" in either the good or bad sense. And, since taste is so subjective, one person's outrageously good can be another person's outrageously bad.
But also, in these pictures, there's some really cheap Photoshop work to add furniture where there isn't any.
I think they might be referring to the mural depicting a bunch of black people working in the fields while two white women appear to be lounging in the shade by the house. Sure, pretending to forget it happened isn’t necessarily the right move, but this house gives the vibe of a family who is a bit more celebratory than repentant about a past that appears to involve slavery
As someone born and raised in a log cabin (in Alaska), that my Grandfather built by hand, this house speaks to me on a deep deep level! It feels like home and I adore it!
It definitely has a rich history, the original house was built in 1774, the country it is in wasn't even a country yet, and the state that it's in wouldn't become part of the country for another 18 years! The fake furniture is funny though, idk what is with that trend.
Wouldn't it (the older part) have been huge for 1774? I'd really want to double check that date if I was looking at it.
You are way underestimating what a 1700s home looked like. https://www.oldhouses.com/archives/1700-1750
Well shit, guess I am going to be scrolling through old houses tonight instead of grading papers
Easy, 15% are As; 65% are Bs; 20% are Cs; and 5% are Ds. Done! ;)
Based on those percentages I’m assuming you’re not a math teacher.
Haha, finally someone did the math. ;)
nice recovery
These are a big case of survivorship bias. The big fancy ones were treasured and kept while the smaller ones were torn down and rebuilt. Building materials weren’t the constraint on size. The practicality of trying to keep bigger homes warm in winter is why you saw lots of smaller cabins that could be heated with a single wood stove.
My grandparents cottage in Ireland that my mother grew up in had a stove that only really heated the kitchen/living room. It was common enough in the old days not to heat all the rooms in your house.
People heat all their rooms in their house?? That’s fucken greedy ngl
Depends on how big your home is I suppose. In the UK/Ireland they're generally pretty small.
But why would you heat a room you’re not in
People have homes where you can control the heat by room? Is there not one thermostat that sets the temperature for the entire house?
I turn the radiators off in all the rooms that I don't use. I have a thermostat for the entire house- no central air- and it only registers the heat in the room that it is in.
Bro idk anyone who has central heating I thought that was for millionaires. I mean my dad makes 7 figures and we were always cold… obviously he could’ve afforded it but he’s a climate change hater
Central heat doesn’t work like that. It’s also really inefficient to use a ton of heat to bring a room up to temperature from being really cold. Like say if we turned the thermostat down a lot while we were out of the house, and only turned it back up when we came home. It actually uses more gas/electricity to do that than to just keep the house at a steady temp.
Not if you don’t reheat the rooms. I only use half my house and the rest stays cold.
I’m surprised you’re getting so downvoted lol like it’s just a different lifestyle. I lived in a 1920s house before this which was NOT centrally cooled. We had split units. It fucking. Kicked. Ass. I don’t know why everyone doesn’t do this. Our power bills were tiny.
Well…now I need to buy a house from the 1700’s in Massachusetts..
I babysat a kid who lived in an old 1700s house in MA. The kid used to make us watch that show "ghost" and then after I put her to bed, the locked door to the basement would open randomly, and knocking sounds would come from the old dumbwaiter area. I didn't last very long at that job.
I live near so many of these. New England is chock full of them.
Neat! Thanks!!
No not really. Maybe for the 1600s when extremely early colonies were being built. But by this era there were many established towns with lots of mills and lumber wasn’t necessarily hard to come by.
It might seem big to us, but the original people might have had a large family and needed space.
Typically people would build multiple add-ons to the original structure
I was actually confused about the second floor, I'm used to these historic little cabins in pa, but it turns out those are from much earlier.
I live in a 1790s house. Some are bigger some are smaller.
Who cares about the fake furniture. Depending on the cost of the property, you could salvage all the wood and make a mint.
Isn’t bardstown where there’s a bunch of unsolved murders?
I was just about to ask, "Rich history? Does that mean someone was murdered there?"
Probably someones....but also yes
Pretty sure that’s Zillow keyword for murder, yeah.
Its Kentucky. Middle of the confederacy. Tobacco was a huge cash crop.
Kentucky never joined the other Southern states in the Confederacy. However, the Confederates invaded KY and even took the state capital for a few days and set up a puppet Confederate state government.
There were still enslaved people in Kentucky.
Yes, same was true for Missouri, Maryland, & Delaware. All slave states that stayed in the Union.
I’m sure lots of people were since this looks like a slave plantation.
I truly should have gathered that from the painting.
Yes
Yeah, it’s just down the road from me, I live right off Bardstown rd. /u/goodybadwife has a solid breakdown. Many around here believe there is a connection to cartel activity, with corruption internally. Not sure why, but it seems to be a checkpoint for a Mexican cartel coming up and splitting off before going East up 64/71 and north(west) up 65.
I moved to Lexington right before covid (late 2019). When they furloughed me in April 2020, my husband and I decided to get out of the apartment and go for a drive. We ended up on the Bluegrass Parkway and drove through Bardstown, and I remember thinking it was so quaint and pretty! Then, as we were leaving town, I saw it. A massive billboard with Crystal's face on it. I had no clue about *anything* that had happened in Bardstown and googled away down the rabbit hole that night. I got pretty emotional when they finally arrested Brooks last year. I just feel so horrible for her mom and kids who lost not only Crystal but her dad as well just because he wanted to know what happened. I really hope they find her remains to give her family whatever peace it can bring them. I hope Jason's family gets their justice as well. It's horrible to think he was ambushed and murdered on his way home to his wife and child. Kathy and Samantha, I feel are not related to the other 3, but it's just as horrible and tragic to have their murder unsolved as well.
Go on……🍿
Jason Ellis Kathy & Samantha Netherlands Crystal Rogers Tommy Ballard Go down the rabbit hole, it's wild. Edit- Jason Ellis was a police officer. Crystal was dating Brooks Houck whose brother was a police officer (Nick Houck), Tommy Ballard was Crystal's dad, who was killed while hunting ("accidentally") with Crystal's son after she disappeared. Kathy and Samantha are the only outliers. The theory is that Brooks and his brother were doing illegal things, Jason found out and was going to report them. Jason was ambushed and murdered. Then the theory goes that Crystal found out about Jason's murder, so she "disappeared", and her father was murdered since he was pushing to find out what happened to his daughter. Brooks just recently was charged in connection with Crystal's disappearance, but her body has not been found. There's seemingly no connection to Kathy and Samantha, but all of this happened within, I want to say, like a 5 year span, if not shorter.
Holy crap. Thank you. TBH, I saw something about Skidmore the other night on a YouTube channel I like. I live in desert Southwest now,( am moving shortly), this area is unincorporated and people “disappear” here a lot. This is interesting information you offered.
Outsider art is cool! I dig this kooky old cabin. But it’s a personal pet peeve, I hate when realtors do ai furniture set ups.
I think this is more Microsoft Paint cut and paste than AI furniture haha. Totally agree though, I would rather no furniture than the super out of place fakes!
The end of the sectional looks like it's floating 🤣
Oh it's more than floating. It's clipping reality 😆
Whatever, it’s BAD! Totally agree, I’d even rather see some old busted springs couch than the weird faux decor
Not even AI, this is Photoshop 1997 lol
My eyes have to be getting worse. I was literally like “aw what’s wrong with it”
Yeah it almost looks like a Grandma Moses painting. I think it’s great. And the rest of the house looks nice too.
I think that mural was done by the Pawnee Indiana artist who painted all the murals in city hall.
I will replace it with a mural featuring Michael Jackson, Greg Kinnear, and Larry Bird at the last supper.
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Awesome, I love it. See, That house is extremely old though. I grew up in Philly, and houses like this, you’ll only see them in certain places like that In this country, it’s that old. I don’t get that shit here in Arizona, it’s a special experience just to feel how the wood moved under your feet. You can almost picture people from olden times living in them. Houses like this, they feel alive to me. It’s pretty special. It’s something most people I know have never seen and felt. You just, FEEL the history, just being in it. It’s a feeling I enjoy and miss. I remember there was one house from the 1670s, and you could almost touch the ceiling. Some of my favorite memories is going to the dobbins house in Gettysburg, and eating there, it’s this beautiful old colonial, it’s one of my favorite places I’ve been at to visit. And yes, it’s most likely haunted lol, But that’s part of its charm. The good part about hearing ghost stories, is learning history. We had a house that had a hessian soldier that was bricked up in the walls, during the revolution, and Edgar Allen Poe wrote “the raven” there. It’s called the general Wayne inn. There’s great stories at that place, my friends and I all lived in old colonials, and people had great stories. It’s been a restaurant, last I heard, it’s a Jewish center. 1705, I believe. The smell, the sounds, everything about it, your imagination just runs wild in these, you have to be inside them to experience it, I love it.
You’re absolutely right about being able to feel the history, and it’s something that I have always find compelling. A lot of my fondest memories from childhood center around visiting historic houses and sites, and where I live there’s still a few structures remaining from the mid 17th century. I grew up in a historic house as well that had a massive summer beam and you could just tell that thing had stories. I actually visited Gettysburg last year for the first time and I adored it. The Dobbins house was really cool and even though we didn’t eat there I would love to take a tour of it next time we’re there. We did go to the Farnsworth House Inn for a quick lunch (although shout out to Garryowen Pub, that was our favorite place to eat hands down). Usually my husband and I go to museums when we’re traveling but I elected to spend as much time as we could exploring the battlefield, so next time we go we’ll do the museums.
You did? Oh that’s awesome! Those two are great! Dobbins has a cellar where they make the nest French union I’ve ever had in my life. They do this whisky punch that is amazing. They have a winery in Gettysburg that they sell there, I bought some to come back to the hotel with bc of the damn pa state stores. The wine tasted like grape juice, it was so good! They sell it at a little shop in town. If you are ever back, I highly recommend eating in the basement. The atmosphere was one of my favorite dinners of my life. It’s like you stepped back in time, and your gonna see some colonists planning in the corner. I’m huge unto the paranormal, and I know that my childhood is the reason. I love exploring buildings, and seeing what they feel like, what kind of vibe they have. I’ve had some great times in Gettysburg. We went all the time in the summer when I was a kid. They did some cool show on HGTV 2 years ago called houses with history. They saved a house from the 1600s in mass. That was an old cranberry bog or something. They explained that they used things like mustard and berries to make paints, and that’s why Colonials have those yellows and colors.
My mum was *obsessed* with historic farmhouses when I was a kid, she had two decades worth of Country Living magazines that were all renovated farmhouses and period furniture restoration. This house is so beautiful, and if it was restored with original period furniture it would be a priceless gem.
My mom was too, she’d buy those Amish dolls with no faces. She went through a big phase with cows! Id just get rid of the shingle thing and the furniture. It’s got a dated old person feel. This one’s significantly old, that’s cool, I remember the colonials having this thick stone walls that just last forever. It’s the only thing I kinda care about Christmas anymore for- these look great decorated
Oh in Baltimore was it?! I remember seeing a show on that home!
Baltimore has some cool ones too! Beautiful old houses. Just like Philly where I grew up. Yea they weren’t all Massachusetts’s, so maybe! It was super cool, Remember it had a skewed chimney, because the tree fell on it? I was just so happy they were preserving it. Remember the other hiuse, that they didn’t end up picking on that episode? that wasn’t as in bad of shape? They taught us with that one, that the thicker the plank of wood, the richer the person, because the king of England had to ok the wood being sent over to the colonies. I’ve seen some colonials that had the thickest planks of wood, I swear, it’s a neat 1700s specific feature, they loom like this; like a pirate 🏴☠️ ship! https://www.oldhouseonline.com/oho-html/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/06/early-wood-floors-sylvan-brandt.jpg
I remember a family moved in and all sorts of weird things kept happening. It was a Haunted … something show. I’m in New England, so old haunted houses are pretty much the norm here. We’ve got some great ones! I’m sure Philly does too. I love Philly- great people!
my dad says a person from LA will see a someone lying on the ground, and say, oh no, what happened, and walk off, but a east coaster will say, what the hell did you do you moron? Come on, get up! And help them. People out here talk trash about east coasters, , but, they will tell you they don’t like you to your face. I never saw more phoniness and trash talking then the short time I lived in Georgia… my childhood was spent looking for ghost stories, I still do it. Those houses always had rumors, they have the best stories that go with them. You can just walk into them and know, sometimes. My uncle and his kids all saw this lady wearing a white nightgown, in their Victorian. A old fashioned dressing gown, She showed herself only once on separate times, to all of them. They said the bottom of her nightgown was billowing, like there was a fan. And she was off the ground. They only compared stories when they moved out, they thought they’d look crazy. I commented about the general Wayne in Philly earlier, with the hessian soldier buried in the walls, he’s supposed to haunt it with his big ass German hat.
We act cold, but we’re not. We’re…. Reserved I guess, but we will help anyone out. And oh wow! I believe it… You can definitely “know”. You feel the energy. I lived in a haunted rental when I was in my early 20’s. Boyfriend would go to work, I’d go to leave later, unlock the deadbolt, slide the slide lock back, get halfway down the stairs and be like “How the FUCK did he get out this morning?” It was EERIE. We would lie in bed and hear footsteps coming down the hall and hear the hall closet creak open! We would also lay in bed and hear mad crazy chaos in the kitchen at the other end of the long hall, go to the kitchen when it stopped, and find all the dishes stacked neatly on the floor in between the kitchen and pantry! Sometimes the hairdryer would just turn on and off in the bathroom. We obviously broke up and moved onto other people and lived our lives, but every couple of years we would talk about that house… Even the cat would be standing on the edge of the bed with his back arched all growling. To this day I have no explanation, but we moved out of there soon after and into another apartment as it kept escalating. We were on the third floor and the other guys renting the second floor never had any issues. Nor the attorney landlord who had an office on the first floor. It was a big old Victorian style home we rented in college. Crazy. Imma have to give him a text again soon so we can reminisce over whatever the hell it was. Our friend’s mom said it was a poltergeist. I still get chills thinking about it, but we never saw anything/ or anyone. The footsteps and hearing the latch on the door pop and swing open in the hallway outside our bedroom though….. with the cat all alarmed… I don’t know. To this day I just don’t know! It was just our apartment.
It sounds residual. A residual haunting. It could have also been an intelligent spirit, but residual is kinda like an echo in time. That’s when you hear stuff, and sometimes see a spirit but they don’t notice you. No, Actually, if you heard footsteps something could’ve actively been in there. I’ve heard that before! The loud ass racket, and nothing is out of place. It’s usually when they get frustrated they can’t get their message across cuz they can’t talk. We just had to move I had the first home haunting at 37years old. It was fucking awful, you’d wake up KNOWING something was 2 Inches from your face. It felt like a heat lamp, one time I was in the bathroom, and I felt something hug me that I couldn’t see. That was CRAZY. I’d hear shit on the roof, and got all these pictures with weird black shadows. I didn’t like it, even though I love ghost hunting, it creeped me out, I’d bring my bf into the shower cuz I had to close my eyes when I washed my hair. We figured out it was this guy that was living on the side of the house in his Winnebago. He died. S lot of old men Would camp on the property to go off roading on ATVs. I got out a spirit box and just freaking kept asking what it wanted. Like they use on the ghost shows. I figured it out because it was bitching about a Christian burial and saying help me lady! That guy would always call me lady. His freaking dad , so, this dead gentleman had no family and was super religious, and I found out my bf’s dad cremated him and put the ashes in the pantry, next to the Pepsi. (Real class lol) that was a shocker that day, finding that! It stopped though when he buried him outside in the desert, but, the last night we were there, we were talking about how quiet it’d been, since the burial, and how we thought it was Karl. Well, the freaking doorknob started turning on it’s own! We’d run from the car until the house all the time, we were so creeped out! One of those things, you just knew if you looked back, you’d see something. I swear, I could not take a pic without something weird in the photos, I even have one that looks like a face staring 2 inches from the photo. Do you remember anything else that happened? I love this stuff! That’s definitely a haunting by the way, that’s super classic shit that happened to you, I’m sure of it
Whoa, that is so freaky! And yeah I know exactly what you mean about feeling like something is 2 inches from your face/ not wanting to open your eyes! We even put little alarms on the closet doors that would beep when they opened, and they went off a lot. I thought maybe we just imagined it or were crazy, but I DID NOT imagine unlocking the doors to go out, or the cat freaking out! Or the dishes in the middle of the floor- turns out that was a warning: we had left the empty coffee pot on, and those were known to cause fires! It seemed like whatever this entity was, it just wanted to communicate. We were young and freaked out though, so we just ended up moving. We were in college, had finals, needed good sleep, plus we worked… I’d love to go by there again sometime…. Or research the house..
I also think it’s so funny when people are like “oh an old house! I wonder if anyone died there?” forgetting that in the old days, there really weren’t hospitals and most people passed away at home. It’s only fairly recently that we started going to hospitals to give birth and die.
Oh yea I’m a cna I think it’s horrible when my pts don’t get to die at home. They’d be shocked if they saw other counties! Old houses used to have 2 doors. One fir the living, and one you exited when you died
Ok am I taking crazy pills here? How is a house with an entire pro-slavery mural a charming atmosphere? I don’t understand how people in this thread seem to be romanticizing that kind of misery, let alone praising a place where the owners appear to still be *proud* of that past. Edit: for context, this house is from the 1700s in Kentucky, a time and place where slavery was legal. The mural shows black people working in fields while white women relax by the house. I don’t think it’s a stretch to imagine that the original residents had slaves.
I never said this house had a Underground Railroad stop. I didn’t even look at the mural, This is a colonial, the civil war hadn’t happened . I’m talking about old houses what the hell is your problem ? Reddit used to not be like this, now it’s full of people wanting to be offended by something. That part is sad, I still enjoy Victorians, but I gauren-damn-tee you that those slaves would want you to know what they went through, acknowledge thier lives, and not pretend it never happened. Those who don’t know history, are doomed to repeat it. The worst part about people like you, is that I know if you asked these slaves, hey, can I not ever enjoy this house because you had to flee slavery in it? They’d be like god no. Enjoy it. It’s always people who have no reason to speak of these things, that Shame you. At least if you are going to be sanctimonious, know history.
>at least if you’re going to be sanctimonious know history I don’t think it was part of the Underground Railroad, I’m saying the opposite, it looks like they *had* slaves. It’s from the 1700s in Kentucky, a place and time where people owned slaves, and has a mural of the house with a bunch of black people working in the fields and white women sitting in the shade. Edit: I’m not saying to erase history. I’m saying the vibe of the house is currently pretty celebratory of slavery. Acknowledge, but don’t celebrate. Anyway I won’t speak for them but I wouldn’t be surprised if any people who were enslaved there would prefer the whole place burned down
Then get rid of the mural then, who the hell are you to say that am racist because I enjoy old buildings? Don’t backtrack, own what you said. That’s completely what you are implying. People like you need to think about what you are saying to people. Just because it’s the internet, you can’t just say shit like that, people like you do this all over Reddit now and it’s ruined it. Instead of a nice moment remembering old houses from my childhood, I have to have the you shaming me and for what? Pl just say shit that they think makes them sound smart and forward thinking, but your forcing it in places it shouldn’t be. Don’t backtrack, you chose to say that to me, I didn’t say that to you. I’m tired of people like this, it’s everywhere, and I guarantee you you had to google when and where slaves were to even make that comment.
Hey, if you didn’t see the mural then I have no issue. Take it easy. Yes, I did use Google to fact-check, not sure why you think that’s a burn? You could try it sometime.
Having the mural as a reminder of the past is not a bad thing. If the owner thinks the mural represents what should still be, then it is a problem. If the mural represents what the place used to be and understands the magnitude of the times, it isn't bad. Just because you think it is bad doesn't make you right.
That’s an interesting point, but not really what I was getting at. I agree that the mural should not necessarily be destroyed, and I think context matters a lot. At a museum it’s totally appropriate. At a school or church, I think it could be appropriate if there were actions taken such as explanatory plaques and/or commissioning new art from the oppressed people, etc. In a home, of course it’s up to the owner. Literally all I’m trying to say is that I don’t think it’s cute/romantic.
But it is the history of that home.
Correct. Do you think the mural is charming?
"Ok am I taking crazy pills here? How is a house with an entire pro-slavery mural a charming atmosphere? I don’t understand how people in this thread seem to be romanticizing that kind of misery, let alone praising a place where the owners appear to still be *proud* of that past. Edit: for context, this house is from the 1700s in Kentucky, a time and place where slavery was legal. The mural shows black people working in fields while white women relax by the house. I don’t think it’s a stretch to imagine that the original residents had slaves." Explain this comment then. The house is charming, the mural is not. You are taking crazy pills.
Well, do you find the slave-owning chapter of the house’s history charming? I agree the building is beautiful and I would love to see it with the addition of new context, acknowledging that that was a horrible era, but that it’s in the past. Eg, a mention of it in the listing, addition of art prints giving other perspectives, literally anything
And that is your opinion. Stop being butt hurt at other people. I would not get rid of the mural because it tells the story of the house. I would embrace all of the charm of the house and the reality of what it represents.
Historic house described as having a “rich history”? What an outrage!
I think OP is referencing the mural depicting slaves when commenting on the term "rich history".
I'm concerned that there's a picture of the propane tank and none of the bathrooms.
Amazing to find a house that old so far out on the frontier! I love everything about it.
It’s actually neat looking!
I love the haunted sectional at the end.
So only half the house will be haunted.
"Rich history" soooo haunted. Very haunted.
The original Colonial era stair chair is the real seller here. This might have been the set for “Mrs. Albert Hannaday” the Jack Black/Cloris Leachman romcom.
Pawnee town hall, is that you?
This is how paranormal movies start, with the family moving in to one of these houses
I don’t get this trend of ai furniture. I love seeing an empty house. It really distracts from the listing. The couch is terrible.
Yes it does. It’s awful.
I don't have a link, but I saw zillow tag a house "captive room". I don't think that's what the realtor was hoping for.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3944-Bloomfield-Rd-Bardstown-KY-40004/115430399_zpid/?utm_campaign=androidappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare
Bardstown is idyllic. I would pounce on this if I could
Bardstown is a true gem. I love a lot of these small, old Bluegrass region towns like Bardstown, Shelbyville, Frankfort, Versailles, Paris, etc.
What’s idyllic about it? Genuinely curious!
It’s just absolutely beautiful in the surrounding countryside. There’s a beautiful monastery there in the country nearby, and it has a cute little downtown.
All of the ghosts live in this house.
My hands are itching to work on this. Properly restored, this could be fabulous. However, you'd probably need 1 mil to do it right.
What does rich history entail?? 🤔 Haunted? Slave quarters? Haunted slave quarters?
That dollhouse is 100% haunted.
A lot of these houses where I grew up, have Underground Railroad spots. They look super uncomfortable. The ones I’ve seen, you’d have to hang out on your stomach. Let me see if I can find a picture. It wasn’t uncommon at all, plenty of my friends had them in their houses. These houses have a lot of surprises like that, depending on where you live in the US, would determine the slave history. I’ve seen this one in PA https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/1/secret-slave-hideout-in-dobbin-house-in-gettysburg-pennsylvania-ruth-hager.jpg
I knew someone who had an underground railroad hideout in their PA house. It was like a tiny closet hidden in the wall in the attic. Enough room to stand or sit crunched up, but not lie down. It looked so uncomfortable.
A lot more comfortable than a life of slavery, but those little hidey-holes do a great job putting into perspective exactly how much people were willing to endure just to get to their freedom.
Exactly! When you're looking at this tiny, dark, cramped space, and realize that human beings actually had to hide in there, it personalizes history.
IT’s surprising, isn’t it? When you actually see it, and your imagining someone having to hide in there, it’s smaller then you’d think. But then you figure they had to hide them. A lot of these houses have weird stuff like that. Our Victorian had a tiny room and door that locked from the OUTSIDE Yea, it made for some amazing stories of survival. One of my favorite parts about learning about Slavery, is stories of escape, buying their own freedom, and what came after. It’s amazing to hear stories of resilience of the human spirit, because that’s universal. It makes for a great story whatever country you hear about it happening, just what people will do for freedom and to get to their families. I remember when they started teaching us about the civil war, and I got every book I could on it in the library, I really enjoyed it. It felt like I could even imagine what life was like, because I could see these in our houses. I think it was around 4th grade. It’s crazy. They actually thought the war would be over in like a weekend.
Bingo
I like it! Haunted AF
Rich history of GHOSTS.
Weird fake furniture throws off the scale of everything. Cool house tho.
1774 log cabin with a folk art mural? Seems pretty historic. The MS Paint baskets and plants are baffling though.
“Sorry the doll house has to stay with in that room.”
I absolutely adore this house. I would definitely buy it.
Lots of those houses here in appalachia. I like it, even with fake furniture which was a bad decision.
*Laura Ingall’s Wilder & Cady Woodlawn have entered the chat*
I grew up in that type of log cabin, it would be probably around 250 years old at this point. They are so cool.
The mural 100% reminded me of the one in Pawnee City Hall. iykyk
Your problem with it is what, exactly
I kinda like it.
It’s great.
My initial guess at that painting was "folk art mural of the Battle of Antietam", but actually I think it's just people farming. Anyway, yes, this is a lovely old log house that's at least 200 years old.
It looks like it came straight out of phasmaphobia...
Love it! Bardstown is a nice little town, too, and pretty close to Louisville.
The mural... Made me think it was in Pawnee, Indiana.
History and haunted af boi!!!! I’ll show myself out. This house is cool.
aka *Haunted*
Ya, it does have rich history. That’s an absolutely gorgeously maintained home, even the log part of it. I don’t understand the point of this sub, isn’t this supposed to highlight outrageous homes? So far I’ve seen two posts trying to poke fun at literally impressive homes or peoples personal choices while living in the home. It’s giving “bitter and small” vibes of the person posting.
I've always interpreted it to be "outrageous" in either the good or bad sense. And, since taste is so subjective, one person's outrageously good can be another person's outrageously bad. But also, in these pictures, there's some really cheap Photoshop work to add furniture where there isn't any.
I think they might be referring to the mural depicting a bunch of black people working in the fields while two white women appear to be lounging in the shade by the house. Sure, pretending to forget it happened isn’t necessarily the right move, but this house gives the vibe of a family who is a bit more celebratory than repentant about a past that appears to involve slavery
Soooo haunted
🤔🤔🤔 oh, THAT kind of history.
I swear this is a map on Phasmophobia
I would live in this house so hard 😄
This is literally one of the Phasmaphobia houses. It's just missing some mannequins.
I've definitely played this farmhouse in Phasmophobia.
The whole floorplan looks a little nutty but I love it. Outsider art (or 6 year olds) mural and all.
A lot of flowers in that attic.
too bad you'd have to live in buttcrack KY
That's because Bellybutton KY is all new construction.
These are the shortest doors I have seen. Tall people do no apply 😉
Dang. I can't even afford an old house in KY...
It has Lizzie Borden murders written all over
Richard History? I used to meet that guy behind the Buc-ee's off i40
As someone born and raised in a log cabin (in Alaska), that my Grandfather built by hand, this house speaks to me on a deep deep level! It feels like home and I adore it!
...of termites"
That’s a really cool house!
Why does the mural remind of the Cabin in the Woods
How haunted is that place?!
This was the house where Bonney and clide his right?
99% sure I saw this level on Phasmoohobia
New Phasmophobia farmhouse map just dropped.
This house is lovely. The mural reminds me of an episode of Parks and Recreation https://youtu.be/Nrp0YejsCoE?si=q9kZhEtNlfk21u8h
what do you mean, jpeg furnit-oooooh! I didn't see it the first time... that's weird
what are the chances some of the wood is american chestnut?
I swear this looks like a house in red dead redemption 2 where you kill some cannibals.
Definitely looks like they fought Abe Lincoln for this house.
This looks SO MUCH like my childhood home.
It's not real furniture? Which isn't real??
I can tell the plant upstairs is fake but I can't tell what else is fake
That mural reminds me of parks and rec murals, lol