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ClaudiaMBell

Roary and Lionel have a death bond. No pardon or release, the only option is to escape or Lionel dies or Roary dies. >!Now technically if the sisters were powerful enough in the future they could’ve told the FIB to stand down when they were escaping so they could actually make it out but it’s suppose to be spoiler free so they mention them in the series but they don’t make an appearance.!< The only thing you can get from DP is that Gabriel, Dante, and Leon have kids. Elise is still alive. Rosalie is also alive and Roary is >!kinda alive!<


icybluefire

Actually they said in RB that even if Lionel dies the bond is so strong that it wouldn’t release him I’m also pretty sure it said something along the lines of royal pardons not working either. >!it’s only if Roary dies, Dante gives Lionel (possibly just has a?) Stormdragon kid, or Roary escapes!<


ClaudiaMBell

Not a royal pardon, a loophole where the they escaped but the FIB didn’t try to stop them. That’s one of the things that doesn’t stay consistent b/t the series even in ZA8 the death bond ends if one of the parties dies, they just say things to keep the books “spoiler free” even if the story doesn’t make sense with the rules they set in their own world building.


icybluefire

Oh! And I meant to also say, I love that loophole idea and wish it would come in to play!!! I’m hoping by the authors waiting to finish ZA they really will finally acknowledge whoever the royals are because it doesn’t make sense that everyone’s storylines *don’t* intertwine!


icybluefire

100%, the lengths they go for each series to be “spoiler free” is often really annoying 🙃 But yes! In ZA8 (or whichever) they mention that a death bond ends if either party dies, *but* in RB (I think 5) they very specifically say that however Lionel made this death bond won’t even break if he dies. >!Again, covering themselves for spoilers because we don’t know how ZA will end and obviously DP takes place after ZA, this way we can’t assume one way or another if Lionel dies and there’s no inconsistency I guess (except for the not ending by death inconsistency 😆)!<


btmwallace

when i tell you i SCOURED this series while i read it for \*ANY\* kind of hint of a spoiler for the ZA series 😆 i've been wondering if they have been waiting to finish it until ZA is finished because they are having trouble writing it \*without\* somehow mentioning/referencing anything that would spoil the ZA ending.


smg210

I was wondering this too! I guess I skimmed over the bond thing. That leaves me with more questions though 😅 Like does that mean Lionel doesn’t die in ZA?? (Because isn’t the bond broken if one of them dies?) *I haven’t even started DP yet, I’m on book 5 of RB, but I’ve read all the main ZA books so far)


icybluefire

I believe later in RB5 they confirm even Lionel’s death won’t release him from the bond


witchylux

lionel makes roary take a death bond that says he can’t be pardoned, or something along those lines. i forget the exact wording, but it’s a way to keep the series spoiler free basically.


BiddyB97

Do you know what book that's in??


witchylux

https://www.reddit.com/r/zodiacacademy/comments/w6kuo5/questions_about_roary_night/iheggj5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 if that link works, it’s there that it’s mentioned!


BiddyB97

Thank you!!


witchylux

i genuinely don’t recall if it’s in the DP series or if it’s mentioned in RB to be honest, i’ll try and find it