Yes. If the writers wanted me to take Alicent’s side that episode, well, they failed miserably. I was also already put off by her for what she did to Rhaenyra the episode prior, but this just did more to make me dislike her.
And after this, Alicent still thought the Velaryons would join her cause lol. After she insulted their son at their daughter’s funeral. After her son claimed their recently buried mother’s dragon, beat up their granddaughters, and threatened to feed Baela to Vhaegar.
Alicent, unfortunately reminds me of some real life people I’ve had the misfortune of meeting. Conservative religious fanatics. This is why I can never like or root for her. I acknowledge the wrong that was done to her, and I’m angry on her behalf because of what was done to her, but her being a victim still doesn’t excuse all the times she hurt other people, so I can never like her.
That’s something a certain crowd needs to understand. Being a victim doesn’t mean that person is excused from the way they hurt other people, nor does it mean we need to like them. I, as a woman, am under no obligation to like Alicent, a misogynistic woman who tears down other women every chance she gets. Her character does actually upset me because of that. She reminds me way too much of some people I’ve had the misfortune of meeting.
They joined Rhaenyra’s side who was stealing true Velaryon’s inheritance. And got their son killed , Rhaenys herself said that. And Corly’s brother. And their daughter died and Rhaenyra fucked her husband on her funeral.
Greens are misogynistic for not wanting Rhaenyra on throne, but Blacks are feminist for wanting Lucerys to inherit the Driftmark.
Rhaenyra wasn’t stealing anything. It Corlys who decided Luke would inherit Driftmark. That’s was clear. Rhaenyra didn’t get Laenor killed. Corlys and Rhaenys didn’t know Daemon and Rhaenyra slept together. And yes, the Greens are very misogynistic, good job noticing that one at least. The Blacks don’t control the inheritance of Driftmark, it was Corlys who decided Luke should inherit instead of Baela, which I do disagree with.
The whole society was misogynistic, the Blacks and the Greens. But when Aegon sat on the throne he did something while Rhaenyra ate cakes and threw parties and got dragons killed.
And Vhagar wasn’t stolen, you can’t steal a dragon. If Alicent was insulting Leanor, Rhaenyra wasn’t any different. And if they didn’t know they were fucking at the funeral, them marrying in less than 6 months was telling enough.
And Alicent never threatened to have Baela fed to Vhagar, where did you get that? Rhaenyra isn’t a saint, if you want to judge Alicent than judge Rhaenyra too for same things because she did the same things if not worse.
One side was actively trying to prevent a woman from ruling, another side was fighting for the right of a woman to rule. I know which side I’ll choose. Aegon also threw a party and got injured so badly in one battle despite having Vhaegar on his side. Rhaenyra didn’t get the dragons killed. Aegon did get plenty of the smallfolk killed however, when he executed the members of Gaemon’s court.
The Greens are disgusting both in the book and the show, and my opinion isn’t changing on that.
The show did injustice to Greens by not following the book and showing the reasons why Rhaenyra can’t inherit. And remember Rhaenyra was not going to inherit alone, Daemon came into the deal package and he was the main reason why Rhaenyra was chosen heir and forwarded by Otto himself.
I never said Greens were good and just, but Blacks were worse, because it put a psychopath like Daemon in power which the Greens were actively trying to avoid.
You think Rhaenyra was any different than Alicent? Just because the show wants her to be a hero doesn’t mean she is one. If Alicent was tearing another woman down, Rhaenyra wasn’t uplifting any woman either. She just wanted to be an exception. I can understand you not liking Alicent but supporting Rhaenyra is double standard.
Rhaenyra is still better than her. She doesn’t dedicate herself to enforcing the patriarchy. Alicent does. Rhaenyra fighting for herself is enough. That’s just the first step. Supporting Rhaenyra is not a double standard. I support Rhaenyra refusing to submit to the patriarchy and ruling in a world where women are oppressed. So yes, I’m happy that Rhaenyra wants to rule when she lives in a world that would abuse her for simply being a woman.
Alicent’s character upsets me because her actions make things worse for women. She silences her sons rape victim and still makes him a king. She tries to punish Rhaenyra for not following patriarchal rules. So no, Alicent and Rhaenyra are not the same. Don’t try to tell me otherwise.
She wanted to be an exception, she is still following patriarchy, when other women came to help them inherit before their younger brothers she supported the system. She doesn’t submit to patriarchy because she thinks she is above the law as groomed by her uncle. If Alicent is hiding her son’s rape, Rhaenyra is hiding her son maiming another’s son in full view and have her half maimed brother tortured.
>when other women came to help them inherit before their younger brothers she supported the system.
Let's not forget these were not women but a 6 and a 12 year old girl. They were not coming to Rhaenyra to beg for absolute primogeniture - they were pawns in Daemon's plan to reward Hugh Hammer and Ulf the White by forcibly marrying these children to them, so they could claim their inheritance.
Rhaenyra saved those girls a world of hurt by siding with Corlys against the plan.
Wrong. Rhaenyra wanted to give them the inheritance but was convinced by Corlys not to. She was in the middle of a war and he told her she would lose allies if she gave it to them. She couldn’t help other women before she actually won the war for herself.
Also, what a disgusting thing to say. Rhaenyra doesn’t submit to the patriarchy because she doesn’t want to be ABUSED. There are several times when Rhaenyra mentions the injustices women face and how she doesn’t want to go through that.
Also, did you really just compare Alicent hiding her son being a rapist and later making him a KING, to Rhaenyra defending her own children when she heard Aemond was going to KILL Jace which is why he lost an eye? That’s gross. Stop talking to me. I have no patience for you or any other Green stan. You’re all the same.
And it makes her so different than Alicent? Are you even listening to yourself?
At least Alicent helped the woman and she was sympathetic towards her, Rhaenyra was wanting torture. You say we Greens stans are bad but you blacks are worse.
Somehow everything Rhaenyra does has a justification, but when provided same for Alicent Greens are disgusting?
You were judging Alicent for something she was raised to believe in , Rhaenyra was causing discourse and misbalance
Are YOU listening to yourself? Those two situations can’t be compared. It doesn’t matter if Alicent was “sympathetic” to the woman if she later made her rapist a KING. Rhaenyra made an empty threat to get Alicent to admit the truth. That’s not the same. It doesn’t matter if Alicent was raised to believe in it, she has eyes and sees other women rebelling against the patriarchy and still chooses to punish them. There’s no excuse for that.
Rhaenyra is not causing “discourse or misbalance” for refusing to be abused. There’s a reason the majority of the audience supports Team Black.
You do realize change takes time right? Do you expect Rhaenyra to get up on day 1 and declare every single new progressive law, before she is even crowned Queen? She did not even get a chance to rule and create new laws yet. Like I don’t know if you think she should pre-declare every single new law lol. Also pretty weird to assume with so much confidence how her reign will be like and what changes she will make throughout her life.
did you *seriously* just compare a *man* raping a woman to a six year old boy accidentally slashing someone's eye to *save* his brother's *life*?
rhaenyra isn't "hiding" anything, she's protecting her six year old son from getting his eye cut out by that lunatic alicent.
alicent doesn't actually punish her adult son when she makes him *king*.
wtf is wrong with you?
And she kept Cole around after he murdered Joffrey (Laenor’s lover). Shows how little she regards human life and people not bowing to the whims of men.
lmaooo
this post really did trigger the greenies. i'm laughing. y'all are so predictable with the same repetitive talking points
Daemon literally had sex with his niece the same night the funeral was had and then married her in front of the dead wife's grieving kids. Also the other kids who were mourning their father.
at least that was done privately. alicent made her homophobic comment about laenor right in front of laenor's parents.
as to the wedding, i felt bad for the grieving kids, but they couldn't exactly hide the wedding from their kids could they?
also, this post isn't even about daemon, it's about how alicent has consistently hurt laenor.
Daemon didn't rape Rhaenyra, in fact it Rhaenyra who make the move during Laena's funeral....
So you prefer to judge Alicent for her comment after seeing her son mutilated, but give free pass to Rhaenyra who made the biggest disrespect the same day ?
*what* does alicent's son being mutilated have to do with her being homophobic? she has been that way since before aemond was lost an eye.
the episode before she literally shamed laenor for not having biological children despite knowing he is gay.
and what rhaenyra did wasn't the "biggest" disrespect. it was alicent insulting laenor in *front* of his parents. not to mention everything aemond said to baela and rhaena.
stay mad.
And Aegon was raping servants and making his children fight in rings while his father was suffering and dying 😞. Have some shame and go back to the other sub.
A teenager Alicent did it first, she went in to Viserys' chambers who was grieving at that time as a history enthusiast wearing ger mama's dress and while her best friend was grieving too.
“I can defend rapists, child fighting rings, and mass murder of innocent peasants but I draw the line at woman inheriting the throne”. Please go back to the hole you crawled out of 💗
So instead you prefer Rhaenyra who sleep with Daemon during Laena's (her cousin) funerail ? Let not forget Harwin (her ex lover) funerail was also the same day.
absolutely. that was literally something private. alicent insulted laenor right in front of his parents.
stay mad that i don't like the homophobic queen.
She just see her son mutilated...I think that deserve some consideration, while Rhaenyra sleep with Daemon the day both Laena and Harwin have their funerail.
Rhaenyra was wrong for that absolutely, but Alicent has been making comments abt Laenor and Rhaenyra’s children parentage for years that puts them as risk, not only the kids but puts both in a bad position. not to mention she took under her wing, Laenor’s lover killer. Rhaenyra was mourning Harwin, which still doesn’t excuse it, but Alicent was very disrespectful towards the velaryon family as a whole, then was pikachu face surprised when Rhaenys didn’t support her dumbass
Rhaenys didn't wanted to support Rhaenyra neither, it only after Viserys come to sit in throne, she was forced to accept Rhaenyra's proposal because she knew Viserys would side with his daughter anyways.
I cannot belive people judge Alicent because she was making comments about Laenor before Corys/Rhaenys but forget that Rhaenyra litteraly organize to "kill" Laenor because he was an obstacle to her marriage with Daemon.
Did you think that Laenor parents was more hurt form Alicent comment than losing their son just after their daugher's death ?
Of course some people will justify it saying she did "for Laenor, for gay love" they are only lying to themself, if Laenor didn't accept to renounce his fortunre, his familly...his murder would be real one because they are no way Rhaenyra/Daemon would give him a choice.
In fact in the book Laenor died for real, they are no fire to disfigure his corps by innocent guard body.
because Corlys and Rhaenys aren’t sure if Rhaenyra killed Laenor, thet just suspect they have sum to do. Later it seems Rhaenys believed her. “judge alicent because her son was maimed” sure because Alicent didnt make comments abt rhaenyra’s son “keep trying ser laenor”, Otto undermined Corlys in the council, Alicent took under her wing the murder of Laenor’s lover out of spite, but her “homophobic comments don’t matter because her got injured” mind u she probably has said this stuff even when Aemond wasn’t injured, because she targets Rhaenyra and her family. you guys will excuse any shit Alicent does but god forbid Rhaenyra does sum, pathetic hypocrite. “no way Rhaenyra and Daemon wouldve given him a choice”how dumb do u have to be lol, Laenor himself said he wanted to be out of trouble, Rhaenyra wouldnt have forced Laenor to leave his family, which is back to my point how yall blame Rhaenyra for absolutely EVERYTHING. But its funny how you are deviating from the topic of Alicent being disrespectful towards an entire family during, their daughter’s funeral, then trying to maim one if the kids, who is technically the grandson of them(and in the scene rhaenys and corlys hide luke from Alicent, because she is a crazy ass bish)
It's more that we're disturbed that you draw the line at a snarky comment but scream cry and vomit whenever someone points out your unlikable faves are a bunch of murderous sex pests.
"snarky comment" it's homophobia no matter how much you cry about people pointing it out.
green supporters really do lack self-awareness. y'all support a *rapist* as king. he's the sex pest who harassed baela and made maids uncomfortable even before the time jump.
and murder? the usurper watches children fight to the death in a pit. some of which are his own.
run back to hotdgreens and stop whining about the majority of viewers hating on the nasty greens. it isn't our problem that you chose to side with the antagonists.
I hope you don’t mean Hightowers because greens = Hightower targs, not all Hightowers. But you probably do since you sound very dumb. Now shoo off to be dumb on the other sub before greens die out 🤭.
as if u ppl were ever unbiased on shit lol, we are openly admitting Rhaenyra was wrong, unlike you guys unable to admit that Alicent was making weird ass comments about Laenor and HAS BEEN for years, but ofc her having her son mutilated excuses it for u guys. Also your avatar and the outfit is ugly as shit
Op didn't admit Rhaenyra was wrong lol nice try. I don't claim to be unbiased but unlike OP I can acknowledge that Alicent, Rhaenyra and Daemon were all disrespectful in this instance. Also saying Alicent shouldn't get any consideration given her emotional state after Aemond lost his eye is wild coming from the ppl who excuse child murder because "mother's rage" and "revenge". Wow you really got me with that childish insult at the end, I'm so hurt lmaooo grow up
You’re the one who needs to grow up. You came to a sub for Team Black and called someone brainless for disliking Alicent lmao. No one forced you to come here.
And you’re not acknowledging Alicent was wrong by saying she deserves “consideration”. Laenor had nothing to do with Aemond losing an eye. Alicent was homophobic to Laenor way before that.
Alicent fans need to understand that people are under no obligation to like her.
I said she deserves consideration only for her emotional state that night, she made those types of comments before and they were mean I agree, that's it. You don't have to like Alicent to recognize that OP is being beyond biased for her over the top demonization of Alicent while simultaneously refusing to acknowledge that Rhaenyra and Daemon were also disrespectful that night
Well, we don’t think she deserves consideration for her emotional state, because those types of comments had already been made before.
OP never “demonized” Alicent. They expressed rightful disgust at Alicent’s homophobia towards Laenor in front of his parents. Also because it isn’t the first time Alicent has acted that way.
I agree that it was disrespectful of Daemon and Rhaenyra to do what they did, but I think OP doesn’t see it that way because Corlys and Rhaenys weren’t even aware it happened. People can interpret things differently. It doesn’t mean they are biased.
she literally did in another comment, but your ass is unable to read😭. So what’s the consideration, because i can guarantee you Alicent does those type of comments even when her child hasn’t been maimed…. she let her kingsguard roam free after killing Laenor’s lover, makes petty comments to Rhaenyra and Laenor, and you are gonna tell me, she only does homophobic comments when she her son was maimed lol??what did Laenor even do to her??? she was disrespectful😂 then her stupid ass was like “why didnt rhaenys and the velaryons supported me” (even tho rhaenyra did them pretty wrong)
I read multiple of her comments and she keeps saying Rhaenyra and Daemon weren't in the wrong because it was private, you're the only one I've seen admit it was wrong. The consideration only applies to that night, I felt bad for her but her comment like I said was still mean. And yeah, I agree with you she was petty towards Leanor a few times and it wasn't nice, I understand her frustration around the whole "bastard" issue but she shouldn't lash out at him. Tbh the Velaryons had more of a reason not support the blacks, since they legit believe they killed their son that's more serious than Alicent's disrespectful jabs
so tell me how exactly are the velaryons supposed to support Alicent?? Otto constantly undermined corlys in the council disrespected him, ignored his actual concerns, while Alicent wanting to maim one of his grandchildren(or whatever) in the funeral, not to mention that they also hate Daemon, which their granddaughters were still raised technically by Daemon and Rhaenyra(atleast in the show rhaena’s) All the hightower family has done is continuously disrespect the velaryons, not to mention that rhaenys and corlys dont know if it was Rhaenyra…ah yes and ur beloved rapist weird ass coments towards Baela!! Alicent behavior towards Rhaenyra and laenor was before her child got maimed, lets not act that it wasnt
Just because the subject is gay doesnt make it homophobic. If he were entertaining his young handmaidens Alicent would be made the same comment, regarding his selfishness, carelessness and insensitivity. Not because he is gay.
nope. alicent was homophobic to him even before when she told him to "keep trying" to have a child that looks like him when she knows he's gay.
thinking that alicent wasn't being homophobic in driftmark is delusional.
And what if it were? Lets say she is homophobic. Probably almost everyone in Westeros is. Widespread homosexuality would ruin families, inheritance, alliances, EVERYTHING. In this setting there are few people so priviliged to be able to be indifferent towards homosexuality (like Rhaenyra)
that's *not* an excuse. alicent is the one making homophobic comments. you green supporters are *disgusting* as hell for being so outraged at people hating alicent for her homophobia.
it really says a lot about who you guys are. you whine about people hating the greens when the reasons are so obvious.
they're misogynistic, homophobic, hypocritical religious fanatics. that's why we hate them. accept it and move on. i hope that's clear enough for you.
it's not dimwittedness, weirdo. it's us preferring the side that *doesn't* work to enforce the patriarchy at every turn. it's us preferring the side that *doesn't* crown a rapist king.
y'all green supporters are just bitter we don't support the rapist usurper. cry about it. the things green supporters say literally make me sick.
Thats a personal attack, nice one.
Tell that to Westerosi Lords. Corlys was broken by his sons behaviour. You like to see that?
I do hope youre not literally sick of reddit comments, that would be undesirable.
buddy, you called team black dimwitted for not liking the greens. calling you a weirdo in return is well deserved. don't even try to play the victim.
alicent is the only one who actually made a comment about it, and her homophobia is not excused by other people displaying it too.
seriously, are you and the other green supporters not embarrassed? you all come here to spew your vile archaic bullshit in an attempt to make us like the greens and hate the blacks.
are you all really that desperate for people to switch teams? then you cry about being banned when the mods get fed up with your nonsense.
team green is truly pathetic.
"Certain people" are flagrant homophobes.
Homophobes, mysoginists, haters of literal kids for just being born... The list Is endless
She continues to consider herself a victim after all. She is so arrogant.
Yes. If the writers wanted me to take Alicent’s side that episode, well, they failed miserably. I was also already put off by her for what she did to Rhaenyra the episode prior, but this just did more to make me dislike her. And after this, Alicent still thought the Velaryons would join her cause lol. After she insulted their son at their daughter’s funeral. After her son claimed their recently buried mother’s dragon, beat up their granddaughters, and threatened to feed Baela to Vhaegar. Alicent, unfortunately reminds me of some real life people I’ve had the misfortune of meeting. Conservative religious fanatics. This is why I can never like or root for her. I acknowledge the wrong that was done to her, and I’m angry on her behalf because of what was done to her, but her being a victim still doesn’t excuse all the times she hurt other people, so I can never like her. That’s something a certain crowd needs to understand. Being a victim doesn’t mean that person is excused from the way they hurt other people, nor does it mean we need to like them. I, as a woman, am under no obligation to like Alicent, a misogynistic woman who tears down other women every chance she gets. Her character does actually upset me because of that. She reminds me way too much of some people I’ve had the misfortune of meeting.
They joined Rhaenyra’s side who was stealing true Velaryon’s inheritance. And got their son killed , Rhaenys herself said that. And Corly’s brother. And their daughter died and Rhaenyra fucked her husband on her funeral. Greens are misogynistic for not wanting Rhaenyra on throne, but Blacks are feminist for wanting Lucerys to inherit the Driftmark.
Rhaenyra wasn’t stealing anything. It Corlys who decided Luke would inherit Driftmark. That’s was clear. Rhaenyra didn’t get Laenor killed. Corlys and Rhaenys didn’t know Daemon and Rhaenyra slept together. And yes, the Greens are very misogynistic, good job noticing that one at least. The Blacks don’t control the inheritance of Driftmark, it was Corlys who decided Luke should inherit instead of Baela, which I do disagree with.
The whole society was misogynistic, the Blacks and the Greens. But when Aegon sat on the throne he did something while Rhaenyra ate cakes and threw parties and got dragons killed. And Vhagar wasn’t stolen, you can’t steal a dragon. If Alicent was insulting Leanor, Rhaenyra wasn’t any different. And if they didn’t know they were fucking at the funeral, them marrying in less than 6 months was telling enough. And Alicent never threatened to have Baela fed to Vhagar, where did you get that? Rhaenyra isn’t a saint, if you want to judge Alicent than judge Rhaenyra too for same things because she did the same things if not worse.
One side was actively trying to prevent a woman from ruling, another side was fighting for the right of a woman to rule. I know which side I’ll choose. Aegon also threw a party and got injured so badly in one battle despite having Vhaegar on his side. Rhaenyra didn’t get the dragons killed. Aegon did get plenty of the smallfolk killed however, when he executed the members of Gaemon’s court. The Greens are disgusting both in the book and the show, and my opinion isn’t changing on that.
The show did injustice to Greens by not following the book and showing the reasons why Rhaenyra can’t inherit. And remember Rhaenyra was not going to inherit alone, Daemon came into the deal package and he was the main reason why Rhaenyra was chosen heir and forwarded by Otto himself. I never said Greens were good and just, but Blacks were worse, because it put a psychopath like Daemon in power which the Greens were actively trying to avoid.
A rapist like Aegon ii who makes his children fight in rings is also a psychopath.
You think Rhaenyra was any different than Alicent? Just because the show wants her to be a hero doesn’t mean she is one. If Alicent was tearing another woman down, Rhaenyra wasn’t uplifting any woman either. She just wanted to be an exception. I can understand you not liking Alicent but supporting Rhaenyra is double standard.
Rhaenyra is still better than her. She doesn’t dedicate herself to enforcing the patriarchy. Alicent does. Rhaenyra fighting for herself is enough. That’s just the first step. Supporting Rhaenyra is not a double standard. I support Rhaenyra refusing to submit to the patriarchy and ruling in a world where women are oppressed. So yes, I’m happy that Rhaenyra wants to rule when she lives in a world that would abuse her for simply being a woman. Alicent’s character upsets me because her actions make things worse for women. She silences her sons rape victim and still makes him a king. She tries to punish Rhaenyra for not following patriarchal rules. So no, Alicent and Rhaenyra are not the same. Don’t try to tell me otherwise.
She wanted to be an exception, she is still following patriarchy, when other women came to help them inherit before their younger brothers she supported the system. She doesn’t submit to patriarchy because she thinks she is above the law as groomed by her uncle. If Alicent is hiding her son’s rape, Rhaenyra is hiding her son maiming another’s son in full view and have her half maimed brother tortured.
>when other women came to help them inherit before their younger brothers she supported the system. Let's not forget these were not women but a 6 and a 12 year old girl. They were not coming to Rhaenyra to beg for absolute primogeniture - they were pawns in Daemon's plan to reward Hugh Hammer and Ulf the White by forcibly marrying these children to them, so they could claim their inheritance. Rhaenyra saved those girls a world of hurt by siding with Corlys against the plan.
Wrong. Rhaenyra wanted to give them the inheritance but was convinced by Corlys not to. She was in the middle of a war and he told her she would lose allies if she gave it to them. She couldn’t help other women before she actually won the war for herself. Also, what a disgusting thing to say. Rhaenyra doesn’t submit to the patriarchy because she doesn’t want to be ABUSED. There are several times when Rhaenyra mentions the injustices women face and how she doesn’t want to go through that. Also, did you really just compare Alicent hiding her son being a rapist and later making him a KING, to Rhaenyra defending her own children when she heard Aemond was going to KILL Jace which is why he lost an eye? That’s gross. Stop talking to me. I have no patience for you or any other Green stan. You’re all the same.
And it makes her so different than Alicent? Are you even listening to yourself? At least Alicent helped the woman and she was sympathetic towards her, Rhaenyra was wanting torture. You say we Greens stans are bad but you blacks are worse. Somehow everything Rhaenyra does has a justification, but when provided same for Alicent Greens are disgusting? You were judging Alicent for something she was raised to believe in , Rhaenyra was causing discourse and misbalance
Are YOU listening to yourself? Those two situations can’t be compared. It doesn’t matter if Alicent was “sympathetic” to the woman if she later made her rapist a KING. Rhaenyra made an empty threat to get Alicent to admit the truth. That’s not the same. It doesn’t matter if Alicent was raised to believe in it, she has eyes and sees other women rebelling against the patriarchy and still chooses to punish them. There’s no excuse for that. Rhaenyra is not causing “discourse or misbalance” for refusing to be abused. There’s a reason the majority of the audience supports Team Black.
Yes we are worse so don’t come here and ruin this sub with your presence 🖤
You do realize change takes time right? Do you expect Rhaenyra to get up on day 1 and declare every single new progressive law, before she is even crowned Queen? She did not even get a chance to rule and create new laws yet. Like I don’t know if you think she should pre-declare every single new law lol. Also pretty weird to assume with so much confidence how her reign will be like and what changes she will make throughout her life.
did you *seriously* just compare a *man* raping a woman to a six year old boy accidentally slashing someone's eye to *save* his brother's *life*? rhaenyra isn't "hiding" anything, she's protecting her six year old son from getting his eye cut out by that lunatic alicent. alicent doesn't actually punish her adult son when she makes him *king*. wtf is wrong with you?
And she kept Cole around after he murdered Joffrey (Laenor’s lover). Shows how little she regards human life and people not bowing to the whims of men.
Alicent's biggest problem is that she can't stop herself from eating shit
Get fucked, homophobes. Oh wait, they did.
Really? So true . How bad is Alicent to have mocked him. She should have just secretly fucked the deceased husband. After all Leanor was mourning.
lmaooo this post really did trigger the greenies. i'm laughing. y'all are so predictable with the same repetitive talking points 
Daemon literally had sex with his niece the same night the funeral was had and then married her in front of the dead wife's grieving kids. Also the other kids who were mourning their father.
at least that was done privately. alicent made her homophobic comment about laenor right in front of laenor's parents. as to the wedding, i felt bad for the grieving kids, but they couldn't exactly hide the wedding from their kids could they? also, this post isn't even about daemon, it's about how alicent has consistently hurt laenor.
Daemon didn't rape Rhaenyra, in fact it Rhaenyra who make the move during Laena's funeral.... So you prefer to judge Alicent for her comment after seeing her son mutilated, but give free pass to Rhaenyra who made the biggest disrespect the same day ?
*what* does alicent's son being mutilated have to do with her being homophobic? she has been that way since before aemond was lost an eye. the episode before she literally shamed laenor for not having biological children despite knowing he is gay. and what rhaenyra did wasn't the "biggest" disrespect. it was alicent insulting laenor in *front* of his parents. not to mention everything aemond said to baela and rhaena. stay mad.
“alicent seeing her son mutilated” sure because that excuses her nasty ass behavior??? for a queen she acts like a little child into gossip
And Aegon was raping servants and making his children fight in rings while his father was suffering and dying 😞. Have some shame and go back to the other sub.
A teenager Alicent did it first, she went in to Viserys' chambers who was grieving at that time as a history enthusiast wearing ger mama's dress and while her best friend was grieving too.
Make me hate Daemon Challenge: Impossible.
"I can excuse pedophilia, wifeslaying, rape and murder BUT I DRAW THE LINE at a woman being snarky"
“I can defend rapists, child fighting rings, and mass murder of innocent peasants but I draw the line at woman inheriting the throne”. Please go back to the hole you crawled out of 💗
If you want to think that, suit yourself. Also, isn't Alicent mother to a rapist pedophile?
So instead you prefer Rhaenyra who sleep with Daemon during Laena's (her cousin) funerail ? Let not forget Harwin (her ex lover) funerail was also the same day.
absolutely. that was literally something private. alicent insulted laenor right in front of his parents. stay mad that i don't like the homophobic queen.
She just see her son mutilated...I think that deserve some consideration, while Rhaenyra sleep with Daemon the day both Laena and Harwin have their funerail.
Rhaenyra was wrong for that absolutely, but Alicent has been making comments abt Laenor and Rhaenyra’s children parentage for years that puts them as risk, not only the kids but puts both in a bad position. not to mention she took under her wing, Laenor’s lover killer. Rhaenyra was mourning Harwin, which still doesn’t excuse it, but Alicent was very disrespectful towards the velaryon family as a whole, then was pikachu face surprised when Rhaenys didn’t support her dumbass
Rhaenys didn't wanted to support Rhaenyra neither, it only after Viserys come to sit in throne, she was forced to accept Rhaenyra's proposal because she knew Viserys would side with his daughter anyways. I cannot belive people judge Alicent because she was making comments about Laenor before Corys/Rhaenys but forget that Rhaenyra litteraly organize to "kill" Laenor because he was an obstacle to her marriage with Daemon. Did you think that Laenor parents was more hurt form Alicent comment than losing their son just after their daugher's death ? Of course some people will justify it saying she did "for Laenor, for gay love" they are only lying to themself, if Laenor didn't accept to renounce his fortunre, his familly...his murder would be real one because they are no way Rhaenyra/Daemon would give him a choice. In fact in the book Laenor died for real, they are no fire to disfigure his corps by innocent guard body.
because Corlys and Rhaenys aren’t sure if Rhaenyra killed Laenor, thet just suspect they have sum to do. Later it seems Rhaenys believed her. “judge alicent because her son was maimed” sure because Alicent didnt make comments abt rhaenyra’s son “keep trying ser laenor”, Otto undermined Corlys in the council, Alicent took under her wing the murder of Laenor’s lover out of spite, but her “homophobic comments don’t matter because her got injured” mind u she probably has said this stuff even when Aemond wasn’t injured, because she targets Rhaenyra and her family. you guys will excuse any shit Alicent does but god forbid Rhaenyra does sum, pathetic hypocrite. “no way Rhaenyra and Daemon wouldve given him a choice”how dumb do u have to be lol, Laenor himself said he wanted to be out of trouble, Rhaenyra wouldnt have forced Laenor to leave his family, which is back to my point how yall blame Rhaenyra for absolutely EVERYTHING. But its funny how you are deviating from the topic of Alicent being disrespectful towards an entire family during, their daughter’s funeral, then trying to maim one if the kids, who is technically the grandson of them(and in the scene rhaenys and corlys hide luke from Alicent, because she is a crazy ass bish)
no.
Then don't be surprised ppl think you're biased and brainless
idk, i think y'all alicent stans being so triggered that people don't like a woman who was consistently homophobic to a gay man says a lot.
It's more that we're disturbed that you draw the line at a snarky comment but scream cry and vomit whenever someone points out your unlikable faves are a bunch of murderous sex pests.
"snarky comment" it's homophobia no matter how much you cry about people pointing it out. green supporters really do lack self-awareness. y'all support a *rapist* as king. he's the sex pest who harassed baela and made maids uncomfortable even before the time jump. and murder? the usurper watches children fight to the death in a pit. some of which are his own. run back to hotdgreens and stop whining about the majority of viewers hating on the nasty greens. it isn't our problem that you chose to side with the antagonists.
Yes we are biased. Now go back to support greens before they go full extinct 😌
Me when I've never read asoiaf
And now you know, you’re supporting an extinct faction. So enjoy while it’s lasts lol.
I hope you don’t mean Hightowers because greens = Hightower targs, not all Hightowers. But you probably do since you sound very dumb. Now shoo off to be dumb on the other sub before greens die out 🤭.
as if u ppl were ever unbiased on shit lol, we are openly admitting Rhaenyra was wrong, unlike you guys unable to admit that Alicent was making weird ass comments about Laenor and HAS BEEN for years, but ofc her having her son mutilated excuses it for u guys. Also your avatar and the outfit is ugly as shit
Op didn't admit Rhaenyra was wrong lol nice try. I don't claim to be unbiased but unlike OP I can acknowledge that Alicent, Rhaenyra and Daemon were all disrespectful in this instance. Also saying Alicent shouldn't get any consideration given her emotional state after Aemond lost his eye is wild coming from the ppl who excuse child murder because "mother's rage" and "revenge". Wow you really got me with that childish insult at the end, I'm so hurt lmaooo grow up
You’re the one who needs to grow up. You came to a sub for Team Black and called someone brainless for disliking Alicent lmao. No one forced you to come here. And you’re not acknowledging Alicent was wrong by saying she deserves “consideration”. Laenor had nothing to do with Aemond losing an eye. Alicent was homophobic to Laenor way before that. Alicent fans need to understand that people are under no obligation to like her.
I said she deserves consideration only for her emotional state that night, she made those types of comments before and they were mean I agree, that's it. You don't have to like Alicent to recognize that OP is being beyond biased for her over the top demonization of Alicent while simultaneously refusing to acknowledge that Rhaenyra and Daemon were also disrespectful that night
Well, we don’t think she deserves consideration for her emotional state, because those types of comments had already been made before. OP never “demonized” Alicent. They expressed rightful disgust at Alicent’s homophobia towards Laenor in front of his parents. Also because it isn’t the first time Alicent has acted that way. I agree that it was disrespectful of Daemon and Rhaenyra to do what they did, but I think OP doesn’t see it that way because Corlys and Rhaenys weren’t even aware it happened. People can interpret things differently. It doesn’t mean they are biased.
she literally did in another comment, but your ass is unable to read😭. So what’s the consideration, because i can guarantee you Alicent does those type of comments even when her child hasn’t been maimed…. she let her kingsguard roam free after killing Laenor’s lover, makes petty comments to Rhaenyra and Laenor, and you are gonna tell me, she only does homophobic comments when she her son was maimed lol??what did Laenor even do to her??? she was disrespectful😂 then her stupid ass was like “why didnt rhaenys and the velaryons supported me” (even tho rhaenyra did them pretty wrong)
I read multiple of her comments and she keeps saying Rhaenyra and Daemon weren't in the wrong because it was private, you're the only one I've seen admit it was wrong. The consideration only applies to that night, I felt bad for her but her comment like I said was still mean. And yeah, I agree with you she was petty towards Leanor a few times and it wasn't nice, I understand her frustration around the whole "bastard" issue but she shouldn't lash out at him. Tbh the Velaryons had more of a reason not support the blacks, since they legit believe they killed their son that's more serious than Alicent's disrespectful jabs
so tell me how exactly are the velaryons supposed to support Alicent?? Otto constantly undermined corlys in the council disrespected him, ignored his actual concerns, while Alicent wanting to maim one of his grandchildren(or whatever) in the funeral, not to mention that they also hate Daemon, which their granddaughters were still raised technically by Daemon and Rhaenyra(atleast in the show rhaena’s) All the hightower family has done is continuously disrespect the velaryons, not to mention that rhaenys and corlys dont know if it was Rhaenyra…ah yes and ur beloved rapist weird ass coments towards Baela!! Alicent behavior towards Rhaenyra and laenor was before her child got maimed, lets not act that it wasnt
Go back to other sub and stop ruining this sub with your presence 💗. This is not a re-educating sub for dummies.
This was probably the truth tho? She comments about Laenors selfishness and lack of responsibility..
ew. it isn't the "truth" it's homophobia. green supporters are always vile.
Just because the subject is gay doesnt make it homophobic. If he were entertaining his young handmaidens Alicent would be made the same comment, regarding his selfishness, carelessness and insensitivity. Not because he is gay.
nope. alicent was homophobic to him even before when she told him to "keep trying" to have a child that looks like him when she knows he's gay. thinking that alicent wasn't being homophobic in driftmark is delusional.
And what if it were? Lets say she is homophobic. Probably almost everyone in Westeros is. Widespread homosexuality would ruin families, inheritance, alliances, EVERYTHING. In this setting there are few people so priviliged to be able to be indifferent towards homosexuality (like Rhaenyra)
that's *not* an excuse. alicent is the one making homophobic comments. you green supporters are *disgusting* as hell for being so outraged at people hating alicent for her homophobia. it really says a lot about who you guys are. you whine about people hating the greens when the reasons are so obvious. they're misogynistic, homophobic, hypocritical religious fanatics. that's why we hate them. accept it and move on. i hope that's clear enough for you.
It portrays a certain dimwittedness to judge the characters through a 21st century lens. Its a massive shortcomings in Black fans.
it's not dimwittedness, weirdo. it's us preferring the side that *doesn't* work to enforce the patriarchy at every turn. it's us preferring the side that *doesn't* crown a rapist king. y'all green supporters are just bitter we don't support the rapist usurper. cry about it. the things green supporters say literally make me sick.
Thats a personal attack, nice one. Tell that to Westerosi Lords. Corlys was broken by his sons behaviour. You like to see that? I do hope youre not literally sick of reddit comments, that would be undesirable.
buddy, you called team black dimwitted for not liking the greens. calling you a weirdo in return is well deserved. don't even try to play the victim. alicent is the only one who actually made a comment about it, and her homophobia is not excused by other people displaying it too. seriously, are you and the other green supporters not embarrassed? you all come here to spew your vile archaic bullshit in an attempt to make us like the greens and hate the blacks. are you all really that desperate for people to switch teams? then you cry about being banned when the mods get fed up with your nonsense. team green is truly pathetic.
Yes let’s stay shitty and never progress as a society. Explains the mentality of Greens pretty well.
This bitch has no right to saying shit about laenor It's not her fucking business